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scroll down for the broken bust die
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nice post, thanks
BHNC #203
Is that a real or fantasy die? It chipped before getting the date stamped on it.
That is cool! Thanks @LanceNewmanOCC for this view.
Pulled out the pics.
It is not a US Mint die.
That’s what I thought. I’ve seen a number of errors struck from damaged fantasy dies but haven’t picked up any yet.
yw. i thought it may have been a while since one had been posted, even if there was a chance the one(s) in the images weren't authentic, the display is still the same.
i'm thinking based on the distance of the fingers that the bust is a $1 size?
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You can clearly see how the crack propagated (darker area, aka "beach marks") before sudden failure. Textbook fatigue failure.
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Thanks for the info @LanceNewmanOCC
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Many dies are defaced in a similar manner after they have minted all of the coins or medals they are intended to. In this way, someone cannot make more coins or medals afterward.
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The example dies shown are cylindrical shape, which was used at the Mint for half dollars prior to late 1806. In 1805 and most of 1806, many of the dies had broken edges as evidenced by cuds on LDS half dollars. The Mint fixed this problem by going to a frustum die (partial cone shape), in late 1806, which strengthens the die. A surviving half dollar die at the ANS, pictured in numerous books, shows the frustum shape of the new design. No have dollar cuds are known from 1807 on after the use of this design.
Thanks for posting those die break pictures.... final break sure looks catastrophic...I wonder what it sounds like at the time of the break, and if coining was stopped at that point. Cheers, RickO