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I'm guessing this is some kind of a die break error?

CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 9,936 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited June 13, 2019 7:58PM in U.S. Coin Forum

@ErrorsOnCoins . Any interest in this wrinkled looking cent?








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  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 9,936 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ErrorsOnCoins ...It fooled me, but okay. Throwing it in the return stack. Thanks!

  • commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,096 ✭✭✭

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:
    PMD

    I disagree. If the wrinkling is incuse (which it looks like it could be), it could be a strike through error.

    -Paul

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  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 9,936 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @commoncents05. Incuse means it was somehow stamped? Or struck through some foreign object? I tend to not disagree with the experts but, here comes another (you). Honestly, I have a hard time understanding that this is somehow PMD and especially with the cut line that rides around most of the coin. With all that being said, and assuming it is not PMD, what do I do with it now? Is this something that would actually grade? Or would I just list it raw on Ebay? And would it be worth more than the cost of shipping?
    Thanks in advance!

  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 9,936 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ifthevamzarockin . No, I'm not sure actually and you may be on to something. Some areas look raised but some do not. Should I soak it in acetone?

  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,908 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes :)

  • HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

  • kbbpllkbbpll Posts: 542 ✭✭✭✭

    It looks melted to me. I'm thinking a micro welder or something.

  • CRH4LIFECRH4LIFE Posts: 849 ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 14, 2019 4:40PM

    Don’t suppose it’s post mint damage. Playing issues or glue of the sort? Hard to tell. Just glanced at the photos but some do suggest the die had a part to play ****EDIT **Plating issues. I hate my keyboard

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Let us know the results of the acetone soak.... Cheers, RickO

  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,490 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Focus at the area near the bottom of the shield. If that line between the clear and rippled areas is raised then it is glue.

  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,930 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As already mentioned, PMD

    Whether it's glue or a similar substance
    I can't tell from the photos........

    Glue doesn't always have that much of
    a 'wavy' effect, but I've seen close.

    It's probably a thinner 'glue' than we
    normally see, but it's not a mint error, imo.

    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.
  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,964 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CoinscratchFever said:
    I will soak it tonight I'm just not sure the Zinc oxide won't dissolve before the glue does. All I know is I spent 2 hours of my life I will never regain looking at glue on a completely worthless Shield cent. Almost gave me road rage this morning, I cut this guy off and he comes up next to me all crazy and I yelled IT WAS GLUE! He said, WHAT? I SAID, IT WAS GLUE! And he said, WELL WHAT DID YOU THINK IT WAS, A STRIKE THROUGH OR SOMETHING? And I was like YEA!

    Zinc should not dissolve in acetone

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,964 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 14, 2019 1:07PM

    @kbbpll said:
    At least you raged out while driving and not on the forum.

    Lol. You think it's better to rage while tossing around a couple thousand pound vehicle rather than a keyboard?

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, evn when irrefutably accurate.

  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 9,936 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 14, 2019 2:13PM

    @jmlanzaf . Its more satisfying :D
    The best part is I'm not even done with this d++shbag cent. If glue comes off of it I'm gonna fix my neighbors yard tonight.

  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 9,936 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf . Just playing, I don't actually carry on like that anymore. I got too much skin in the game now but, once upon a time I remember darting through traffic one morning in my sporty lil' 280zx on the way to work cause everybody was going to slow, right. And I got in front of this one guy and there was plenty of room until he sped up. But, I came on over anyway and he started riding my ass and flipping me off so, I gave him a quick brake check at 70 down to about 15. Through the rear-view mirror I'll never for get that look of shock and disbelief in his face, looked like his soul was falling out of his body in slow motion, as his red station wagon was up on the front two wheels swaying from side to side.

    Anyway, I gave that zinc about a 20 min. soak and it seems very clear that is is in fact glue. Its cleaned up enough now to see the illusion of raised is actually sunken and raised is the glue around the original surface.







  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,964 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CoinscratchFever said:
    @jmlanzaf . Just playing, I don't actually carry on like that anymore. I got too much skin in the game now but, once upon a time I remember darting through traffic one morning in my sporty lil' 280zx on the way to work cause everybody was going to slow, right. And I got in front of this one guy and there was plenty of room until he sped up. But, I came on over anyway and he started riding my ass and flipping me off so, I gave him a quick brake check at 70 down to about 15. Through the rear-view mirror I'll never for get that look of shock and disbelief in his face, looked like his soul was falling out of his body in slow motion, as his red station wagon was up on the front two wheels swaying from side to side.

    Anyway, I gave that zinc about a 20 min. soak and it seems very clear that is is in fact glue. Its cleaned up enough now to see the illusion of raised is actually sunken and raised is the glue around the original surface.

    We'll give you Chemistry credit for the experiment. :smile:

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, evn when irrefutably accurate.

  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,908 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "All I know is I spent 2 hours of my life I will never regain looking at glue on a completely worthless Shield cent."

    Now that's funny! :D:D:D:D

  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 10,175 ✭✭✭✭✭

    For a while I thought you discovered the first "stucco" cent.

    Successful transactions:Tookybandit. "Everyone is equal, some are more equal than others".
  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 9,936 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Prepare yourself as I just picked another brick o cents, moving on from W quarters I now have plenty of those :D

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