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What is up with the new American Innovation Dollar Coins? Is the mint going to release any this year or are they going to postpone/cancel the series. I bought a roll of P & D and 25 proofs to start sets for completion in the future. Are my 25 sets complete or do I have a few years of collecting to look forward to. I personally think the innovation coin series is exactly what we need now. The states NPs native American and presidential series are nice and show a lot of US history, but not much in the science & engineering department. I think this series could help renew a few people's interest in the art of sciences by reminding us of what we can accomplish even in rough times.

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  • BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,680 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Other than the whole thing being stupid? And rushed?

    The mint needs time to prepare the dies - the designs were reviewed by the public commissions a month or six weeks back. So it will be backloaded in the schedule, probably September - December.

    -----Burton
    ANA 50 year/Life Member (now "Emeritus")
  • CollectorBonEZCollectorBonEZ Posts: 374 ✭✭✭✭

    So this years will either be released all within two months or will not be released until next year?

  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,287 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CollectorBonEZ said:
    ... I think this series could help renew a few people's interest in the art of sciences by reminding us of what we can accomplish even in rough times.

    Perhaps if they were actually used in circulation, but "release" of these simply means availability of numismatic and paranumismatic product for people that already know about them. To the public, this will be a case of a tree falling in the forest and nobody hearing it.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    While I can understand your interest, realize that most people consider the series just another mint offering to generate collector interest... which it may well do among YN's and a few others. Cheers, RickO

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,673 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Out of sight ... out of mind.

    All glory is fleeting.
  • ReadyFireAimReadyFireAim Posts: 1,835 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Any reasonable person or group had 2nd thoughts.
    I bet that's it.

    Or enthusiasm.
    It might be a problem for anyone involved if they are actually going through with it.

  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hi new here so here goes The mint has a web site and anyone can find out that the innovation coins will be available in the fall and wow they are going to be available in a reverse proof. I am your humble friend Hope this helps🙀jzyskowski

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  • cursivecursive Posts: 15 ✭✭

    Here are links to the design candidates reviewed by the CCAC and CFA in April, for the Delaware, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and Georgia issues.

    The Committees' preferred designs are DE-R-5 (both), PA-R-11 (both) , NJ-R-2 (CCAC), NJ-R-7 (CFA, with reduced filigree) or NJ-R-9 (CFA), and GA-R-2 (both, but the CFA objected to the theme)

    DE-R-05, a silhouette of Annie Jump Cannon, an astronomer who developed the modern system of star classification

    PA-R-11, a microscope and the structure of the polio virus, on the theme of the polio vaccine

    NJ-R-02, an Edison bulb with rays of skyscrapers

    NJ-R-07, an Edison bulb with filigree

    NJ-R-09, a film projector

    GA-R-02, a hand planting seeds, commemorating the Trustees' Garden, an early experimental garden in Savannah

    My favorite of the recommended designs are the Pennsylvania reverse and NJ-R-07 with the filigree. Not many of the design candidates wowed me, but with the volume and wide range of subjects a few of them are bound to look decent.

  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like the PA design, too.

  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 13, 2019 10:09AM

    The Georgia design is -- how to put it kindly -- inept.

    The series is supposed to be about innovation and should, itself, be innovative. So far, the first trite issue seems to be followed by more of the same. These folks are being treated like illustrators --- not artists.

    "Let the artists go ! Let them show their creativity ! "

  • BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,680 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Having looked it up, the Trustee's Garden is more innovative than you might think - they breed and crossed important crops so they would grow in the colony.

    https://georgiahistory.com/ghmi_marker_updated/trustees-garden/

    Marker Text: At this site was located the first public agricultural experimental garden in America. From this garden was disseminated the upland cotton which later comprised the greater part of the world’s cotton commerce. Here were propagated and from this garden distributed, the peach trees which gave Georgia and South Carolina another major commercial crop.

    The garden consisted of ten acres. It was established by Oglethorpe within one month after the settlement of Georgia. Botanists were sent by the Trustees of the Colony from England to the West Indies and South America to procure plants for the garden. Vine cuttings, flax, hemp, potashes, indigo, cochineal, olives, and medicinal herbs were grown. The greatest hope was centered in the mulberry trees, essential to silk culture. In the early days of the Colony, Queen Caroline was clothed in Georgia silk, and the town’s largest structure was the filature.

    The silk and wine industries failed to materialize. The distant sponsors were unable to judge of the immense importance of the experiments conducted in other products. In 1755 the site was developed as a residential section.

    -----Burton
    ANA 50 year/Life Member (now "Emeritus")
  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That’s an amazing question Picasso or realist? Do you want an illustration of the event or an artistic representation of it🙀? Jzyskowski

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  • HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They’ll be pushed out in the last calendar quarter.

    Instead of having almost two years of sales, they’ll only have a bit over a year. Similar to the December 2018 release of the first (Introductory) AI. Just received a couple boxes of Ps & Ds and it is interesting to note the production dates of Dec 2018 and January 2019. The bags are sold out.

    Good, bad, indifferent, who knows? Still a small demand for 2018 PF70 AIs.

  • OnastoneOnastone Posts: 4,136 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I bought a roll of P & D and 25 proofs to start sets for completion in the future. Are my 25 sets complete ?

    Not unless you add the Reverse Proofs with those.

  • CollectorBonEZCollectorBonEZ Posts: 374 ✭✭✭✭

    @Onastone said:

    I bought a roll of P & D and 25 proofs to start sets for completion in the future. Are my 25 sets complete ?

    Not unless you add the Reverse Proofs with those.

    The first release coin does not have a reverse proof version.

  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Dang you guys are a tough group. Sorry about the Picasso question sorry about trying to enter your chat world. Enjoy 🙀

    🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶

  • BackroadJunkieBackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The first may be arriving soon (relatively speaking), the Mint just published the price for the reverse proof coin. (We're approaching 3rd quarter, with no release dates in sight...)

    $9.95.

    Establish Pricing for 2018 United States Mint Numismatic Product

    And anyone else notice that the Pd RP coin has fallen off the schedule into the TBD's?

  • HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Jzyskowski1 said:
    Dang you guys are a tough group. Sorry about the Picasso question sorry about trying to enter your chat world. Enjoy 🙀

    Welcome to the CU forums @Jzyskowski1.

    Don’t mind us forumites we sometimes loose track of ourselves. ;)

    Alot of discussion on the AI occurred in this thread. Now the waiting occurs as each State tries to figure out what to do.

    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1009945/2018-american-innovation-1-coin-intro-coin-18ga-18gra-18gre-18gba-18gbe

  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks Hemi. This old can has been kicked down many a dusty road. I believe I’ll stick around for a few new kicks 🙀jzyskowski

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  • coinhackcoinhack Posts: 1,173 ✭✭✭✭

    @Jzyskowski1 said:
    That’s an amazing question Picasso or realist? Do you want an illustration of the event or an artistic representation of it🙀?

    Welcome to the forum @Jzyskowski1

  • kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 14, 2019 12:47PM

    I just wish they would do a straightforward series. P-D-S. None of this “enhanced reverse uncirculated proof with W mintmark” halfway into the program. I preferred to collect series like this in Dansco albums and it makes it a pain

    "I'll split the atom! I am the fifth dimension! I am the eighth wonder of the world!" -Gef the talking mongoose.
  • CollectorBonEZCollectorBonEZ Posts: 374 ✭✭✭✭

    @kiyote said:
    I just wish they would do a straightforward series. P-D-S. None of this “enhanced reverse uncirculated proof with W mintmark” halfway into the program. I preferred to collect series like this in Dansco albums and it makes it a pain

    I know what you mean.

  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,287 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CollectorBonEZ said:

    @kiyote said:
    I just wish they would do a straightforward series. P-D-S. None of this “enhanced reverse uncirculated proof with W mintmark” halfway into the program. I preferred to collect series like this in Dansco albums and it makes it a pain

    I know what you mean.

    There's a note on the Dansco Album Store's site that states that Dansco will be making an additional page for the unanticipated business strike coins as soon as they know what to make, which should be in 2021, I imagine. I don't know if the binder is big enough to accommodate what they'll need, though.

  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Being new here but not to the hobby do you mean a circulating coin p d s but maybe with a limited mintage or what would be the draw There are things available from the mint but I’m missing what your describing classification?🙀jzyskowski

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  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sorry clarification 🙀jzyskowski not classification

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  • HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Jzyskowski1 said:
    Sorry clarification 🙀jzyskowski not classification

    You can edit your post by clicking on the gear thing in the top right of your posts.

  • BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,680 ✭✭✭✭✭

    All of the AI$ are going to be NIFC (Not Intended For Circulation). They will be circulation quality (and proofs, reverse proofs, Hawaiian Pizza coins, etc.) manufactured in small quantities to meet the letter of the law and for collectors.

    Just like Liberia, Niue, etc.

    -----Burton
    ANA 50 year/Life Member (now "Emeritus")
  • DBSTrader2DBSTrader2 Posts: 3,498 ✭✭✭✭

    I didn't know NJ had skyscrapers! Figure it's just another thing they want to steal from NY (i.e. Statue of Liberty)........ Seriously, though, I think the DE design is flat & boring at best. Definitely a series I won't be wasting my time/effort/interest on collecting, so long as they don't circulate. :(

  • BigABigA Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭✭

    So they are announcing the price of last year's (2018) reverse proof Innov $1 that will be released this year(2019)?

  • HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BigA said:
    So they are announcing the price of last year's (2018) reverse proof Innov $1 that will be released this year(2019)?

    Where, what, huh?

    The 2018 PF AI is still being sold.

    Are they making a 2018 RPF AI? Don’t think the Mint can produce 2018 coins in 2019. Or did I misunderstand.

    The 2019 Mint schedule has gone wild with PFs and RPFs; and the usual bags/rolls of unc.

  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I got this one. Just checked mint website2018 proof AI coin available. 2018 P & D rolls available AI. No reverse proof don’t believe there ever was or will be for 2018 Don’t know about production date. Hope this helps 🙀jzyskowski

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  • HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Jzyskowski1 said:
    I got this one. Just checked mint website2018 proof AI coin available. 2018 P & D rolls available AI. No reverse proof don’t believe there ever was or will be for 2018 Don’t know about production date. Hope this helps 🙀jzyskowski

    Yes, I see the 2018 AI schedule. PF and rolls are still available but the 100-coin bags are sold out.

  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Dang did it again sorry. Ah thought it interesting that the 2018 will be the only year without a reverse proof. Didn’t mean to sound crappy. Going to my room til tomorrow 🙀jzyskowski

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  • HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Jzyskowski1 said:
    Dang did it again sorry. Ah thought it interesting that the 2018 will be the only year without a reverse proof. Didn’t mean to sound crappy. Going to my room til tomorrow 🙀jzyskowski

    Probably because the Mint was stuck with striking the coins so late in the year and didn’t have time.

    Might be the same for this year. Designs haven’t been decided for the four State AIs, yet.

    It will be interesting.

  • BigABigA Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 16, 2019 4:12AM

    @Hemispherical said:

    @BigA said:
    So they are announcing the price of last year's (2018) reverse proof Innov $1 that will be released this year(2019)?

    Where, what, huh?

    The 2018 PF AI is still being sold.

    Are they making a 2018 RPF AI? Don’t think the Mint can produce 2018 coins in 2019. Or did I misunderstand.

    The 2019 Mint schedule has gone wild with PFs and RPFs; and the usual bags/rolls of unc.

    You did not misunderstand....

    ...using the link posted above in the comment by BRJ about the 2018 reverse proof. Info released last week by the Mint.....

    Full link posted by BRJ:

    https://s3.amazonaws.com/public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2019-12652.pdf

  • HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BigA said:

    @Hemispherical said:

    @BigA said:
    So they are announcing the price of last year's (2018) reverse proof Innov $1 that will be released this year(2019)?

    Where, what, huh?

    The 2018 PF AI is still being sold.

    Are they making a 2018 RPF AI? Don’t think the Mint can produce 2018 coins in 2019. Or did I misunderstand.

    The 2019 Mint schedule has gone wild with PFs and RPFs; and the usual bags/rolls of unc.

    You did not misunderstand....

    ...using the link posted above in the comment by BRJ about the 2018 reverse proof. Info released last week by the Mint.....

    Full link posted by BRJ:

    https://s3.amazonaws.com/public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2019-12652.pdf

    Going blind and forgetful I am! Thanks for the refresher @BigA.

    What warehouse have these been stored in since last year. :*

    Someone must have looked at the quarterly storage inventory and realized... Oops what are we going to do with all these RPF ‘18 AIs? Why didn’t we start the sale of these along with the PF AIs? Oh, because we didn’t do the FR notice to the public. :#

    Or it’s a plan to have less than six months of sales, make that five months, we are already halfway through Jun.

    This entire AI thing is getting really really wild! 2018 AI design issues before production, late production and release and now a RPF; and then the probable late designs and releases of the ‘19s.

    And why is the pricing $3 more for the RPF over the PF?

    Enough from me. I’ll stick with posting weekly numbers. https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1009945/2018-american-innovation-1-coin-intro-coin-18ga-18gra-18gre-18gba-18gbe

  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Happy Fathers Day Just came out of my room discovered someone decided to drop a reverse proof boom on this whole AI mess. Hemi you’re lucky at least you can post weekly I can’t get that right. Oh well back to my room 🙀jzyskowski

    🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶

  • SilverstateSilverstate Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭

    Curious on how many Edge Lettering varieties will appear.

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