rotated coin in holder...how could this happen?

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chrisfl
chrisfl Posts: 40 ✭✭✭
edited June 10, 2019 12:40AM in U.S. Coin Forum

I recently sent in a token to our host in an NGC slab for crossover. When it was returned (DNC) the coin, still in the original holder and with no visible signs of being removed, was rotated about 15 deg counter clockwise .it was the type of insert that makes contact around the entire edge of the coin. I am not crying foul play at all , I just do not see how this could happen.....and I do find it annoying . maybe somebody with insight to the process can shed some light on the matter. Thanks ,Chris

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  • lkeigwin
    lkeigwin Posts: 16,895 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Coins sometimes rotate in their holders. It's not because someone did something wrong. Jostling during handling can cause it.

    The good news is if it rotated once it can rotate again. To fix things some collectors repeatedly rap the slab corner on a hard surface. Ultrasonic vibration sometimes works (e.g., with a Sonicare toothbrush). I've shown a youtube video a few times.
    Lance.

  • Higashiyama
    Higashiyama Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    My coins rotate in the safe deposit box. Luckily, I haven't noticed any sign of wear!

    Higashiyama
  • chrisfl
    chrisfl Posts: 40 ✭✭✭
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    Thanks lance ,I will give that a try .it just seemed odd.

    @Higashiyama said:
    My coins rotate in the safe deposit box. Luckily, I haven't noticed any sign of wear!

    Now that is odd....

  • lonn47
    lonn47 Posts: 236 ✭✭✭
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    so what was the grade when it returned to you. thanks

  • chrisfl
    chrisfl Posts: 40 ✭✭✭
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    @lonn47 said:
    so what was the grade when it returned to you. thanks

    DNC .....(did not cross).....it was returned in the same holder with the same grade it was sent in . That’s why I thought it was odd that it rotated, they never removed the coin from the original holder.

  • Higashiyama
    Higashiyama Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @chrisfl said:
    Now that is odd ...

    I was quite surprised as well, but the bank is on a major street, and it must be vibration from the traffic?

    Higashiyama
  • lonn47
    lonn47 Posts: 236 ✭✭✭
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    just funny hu

  • ricko
    ricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The vibration method (with a toothbrush) works well as stated above.... Tapping it on a hard surface will also work, but takes longer....Cheers, RickO

  • CCGGG
    CCGGG Posts: 1,267 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 10, 2019 6:05AM
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    I've got newly slabbed coins back from PCGS that were rotated just from handling in the mail. Or I should say, I hope is was from handling in the mail and not sloppy "slabbing at PCGS". Anyway, it doesn't happen a lot and it's usually easy to tap it back in place.

  • chrisfl
    chrisfl Posts: 40 ✭✭✭
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    @lkeigwin said:
    Ultrasonic vibration sometimes works (e.g., with a Sonicare toothbrush).
    Lance.

    thanks lance it worked well.......sanity restored

    @CCGGG said:
    I've got newly slabbed coins back from PCGS that were rotated just from handling in the mail. Or I should say, I hope is was from handling in the mail and not sloppy "slabbing at PCGS". Anyway, it doesn't happen a lot and it's usually easy to tap it back in place.

    I think it was the mail......I fixed a couple of my coins and I was surprised how easy the coin moved while I was fixing mine.

    Thanks all , Chris

  • AUandAG
    AUandAG Posts: 25,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I used the toothbrush method just once. It was so fun I decided if I could get it to do a 360...... nope it got stuck at 180. But, that's okay because when I sent it back for reholder it came back as a rotated die....

    bob :o

    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
  • chrisfl
    chrisfl Posts: 40 ✭✭✭
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    @AUandAG said:
    I used the toothbrush method just once. It was so fun I decided if I could get it to do a 360...... nope it got stuck at 180. But, that's okay because when I sent it back for reholder it came back as a rotated die....

    bob :o

    I would check your toothbrush ......I think you have something special there :#

    Chris

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