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ajaanajaan Posts: 17,624 ✭✭✭✭✭

Why make a copy of a state quarter? Anyone seen these before? Unfortunately I can't test if they are silver.



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  • thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you have no other way to test, maybe the tissue test?

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Why not? Just about anything these days is copied FOR PROFIT of course.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,890 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There are a lot of those sets floating around. They are not silver, in my experience. Typically, it costs the producer less than it would to buy proof coins from the MInt. They then package them and sell them for a profit.

    Makes perfectly good sense to me.

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  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,475 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think they pictured alternate designs that were not picked for the official coins.

  • ajaanajaan Posts: 17,624 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBK said:
    I think they pictured alternate designs that were not picked for the official coins.

    Now that makes more sense.


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    Don
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,895 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBK said:
    I think they pictured alternate designs that were not picked for the official coins.

    I wonder if they'll do the Arkansas quarter with the Bill Clinton design. :o

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  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If they are not US Mint products, they are counterfeits. No exceptions.

  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 9,153 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They are silver plated unless marked on the edge "999 FINE SILVER" or similar. It looks like maybe those two were found in circulation ?

    I did the basic graphic design for the Washington DC concept quarter. I also did the graphic design for a similar Puerto Rico concept quarter. The Missouri concept shows the original design created by an artist from Missouri. That design was later modified by the US Mint, much to the chagrin of that original artist and there was quite a lot of "protesting" over it.

    All were minted by Sunshine Minting and marketed by National Collectors Mint (NCM). I was contracted by NCM to do the graphic designs in 2004 and that was the extent of my involvement in it.

    More information is here (see the 4th section from the top titled "Washington DC and Puerto Rico novelty quarters, 2004-2009."):
    moonlightmint.com/other.htm

    The ones shown are probably worth a couple dollars in that condition (if silver plated). The solid silver versions are quite a bit scarcer and worth more, of course.

  • ajaanajaan Posts: 17,624 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for the information dcarr.


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    Don
  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,890 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RogerB said:
    If they are not US Mint products, they are counterfeits. No exceptions.

    They are stamped "copy"

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  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,831 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RogerB Roger, the subject coins appear to have the word ”COPY” stamped in the hair on the back of Washington’s Head (See red👇circled areas)

    @RogerB said:
    If they are not US Mint products, they are counterfeits. No exceptions.



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  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    OK. Missed those - I though that was tarnish or dirt. They comply with HPA so are OK.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,890 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RogerB said:
    OK. Missed those - I though that was tarnish or dirt. They comply with HPA so are OK.

    We'll be sure and let them know.

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  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RogerB said:
    OK. Missed those - I thought that was tarnish or dirt. They comply with HPA so are OK.

    It takes an exceptional numismatist to post a response as this. Some would try to weasel out and most would not reply at all. Way to go Roger!!! A tiny slip like this is nothing. I didn't look closely enough to see "copy" either because those coins were awful.

  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 9,153 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The original Missouri design was actually superior to the final design that was used (in my opinion), although the original was not as historically accurate (according to the US Mint).

    Original artist's rendering:

    Actual coin:

  • BillDugan1959BillDugan1959 Posts: 3,821 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Indeed, both designs on the 'copies' are clearly superior to what was actually used.

  • ACopACop Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They make fake grapes and fake lettuce in china. Nothing is off limits.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In my search for a W quarter, I truly hope I do not find any of these 'copies'.... ;) Cheers, RickO

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,890 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    In my search for a W quarter, I truly hope I do not find any of these 'copies'.... ;) Cheers, RickO

    Why? They are probably more scarce than the W quarters. :wink:

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf ... My focus has now changed... the search is ON!! :D Cheers, RickO

  • ajaanajaan Posts: 17,624 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 9, 2019 9:19AM

    @ricko said:
    @jmlanzaf ... My focus has now changed... the search is ON!! :D Cheers, RickO

    If it wasn't illegal, I would be tempted to let them loose into the wild. The coins imaged are not circulated. They may look like that due to my poor imaging skills.


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