What is a "Certified Numismatist"?
I was reading up on J.T. Stanton for a publication I'm working on and ran across the following article which indicates he was a "certified numismatist". Does anyone know what this is referring to?
https://coinweek.com/people-in-the-news/in-memoriam/important-numismatists-j-t-stanton-has-passed/
Heres a photo of J.T.'s token by Ron Landis and the Gallery Mint from Bill on CoinPeople.com:
http://www.coinpeople.com/topic/17201-ana-medals-and-badges/page/2/
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Nope.
Professional Numismatist, Retired. 55 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner of the PNG's 2026 Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.0 -
I've seen a few who were probably certifiable.....
Certifiably crazy, that is.
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The term was used in a brief obituary so I'm not inclined to read into it very much.
The author probably could have used "professional" instead."If I say something in the woods and my wife isn't there to hear it.....am I still wrong?"
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I have a great idea for another 'sticker' service.... A platinum sticker for a 'certified' numismatist.... Worn on the forehead at coin shows.... Those with the certification can charge for consulting services.....There could also be a copper sticker for 'approved trainees'....who would follow the exalted certified numismatist around and learn while carrying his/her equipment and lunch.
Cheers, RickO2 -
It's just fluff. There is no certification, licensure, education, training, or anything for that matter, required to be a numismatist.
Edited to add ... Heck, there's not even agreement on what a 'numismatist' even is.
Numismatist Ordinaire
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Well, I've always thought of participation in this hobby as a sickness, so there's that!
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There are none.
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That title would infer there is a certification process one would have to successfully pass.
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Good question. The other day a gov' t agent notified me about doing an appraisal. Then he asked if I was a certified appraiser.
I told him I was licensed to buy and sell but wasn't certified in any such thing. So how much is a ten ounce bar of silver worth ? Any certified appraisers out there ?2 -
Well, I can offer, for a nominal sum, a Certified Numismatist fom.
As the CEO of COINS (Certifiable Obnoxious Ingratiate Nutcases) , I have an extensive course in certification.
1) Have you sent me $100.
2) You are certified.
Since no one is in charge, anyone can be in charge.
I used to box to be a boxer. Ever notice how many different "championship" belts there are. There are 4 major sanctioning bodies, 17 weight classes, so 4 x 17 = 68 belts, but there are minor sanctioning bodies, which brings the number to over 6000 "Championship" belts.. Toss in Boxrec and The Ring, there is not even agreement on the names of the weight classes.
As a joke, MANY years ago, some of us formed our own "Sanctioning"Body, so I was THE WORLD LIGHT WEIGHT CHAMPION
(Cue rounds of applause). Although, if I had to defend my title now, it would be as a light heavyweight
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Somebody who has bought at least one certified coin?
Investor1 -
My California Resale certificate says CTF Error Coins ..... so ... I guess ...I am Certified
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Anyone who collects coins is certifiable.
A certified numismatist is a coin collector who's actually seen the doctor.
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I heard that's what one gets after being a collector for to long, what do I know quack
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Doesn't Don Kagin have a PHD in Numismatics? I believe his book on territorial Gold was his doctorate thesis.
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as a "certified" anything...I believe you had an education on that subject, like you wrote an examen and you graduated after a few years learning the job from and..well from another who has all the qualifications to teach you. . Just MHO.
As an expert..., similar to above but with a very long time having done the "experting" thing.
In Europe, being a Numismatist is a profession.
the other thing is that a Professional must carry insurance for malpractice etc.......in Europe..Today is the first day of the rest of my life0 -
There are no independent standards, certifications or academic degrees in numismatics. Many states have certification programs in real estate appraisal and general tangible property appraisal. There are also a few numismatists who are accepted as "expert witnesses" in certain Federal or state courts.
It would be nice if some university would offer a graduate degree in American Numismatics as part of their history offerings.
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Someone who wrote the notice just picked a meaningless word. "Professional" as suggested above was a better choice.
It is a shame that the ANA does not have something in addition to their Hall of Fame. Deceased numismatists like McKloskey, Forman, J.T., Reed, Hoskins, Hancock, Fleishman, Kagin, Margolis, and a hundred others plus deserving numismatists still alive today like his coauthor Bill Fivaz, should be honored while they are alive (in addition to what they have already been awarded).
Hey, I'm computer illiterate but an ANA Facebook page would work. Open to anyone not in the Hall of Fame already and once making the Hall, they would be removed from the Facebook page. After receiving 800 nominations a numismatist would be recognized for their contributions. Some folks would be put on immediately to kick it off. Many could be plucked right off the RedBook pages or the ANA Centennial books.
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@Insider2 said:
Someone who wrote the notice just picked a meaningless word. "Professional" as suggested above was a better choice.It is a shame that the ANA does not have something in addition to their Hall of Fame. Deceased numismatists like McKloskey, Forman, J.T., Reed, Hoskins, Hancock, Fleishman, Kagin, Margolis, and a hundred others plus deserving numismatists still alive today like his coauthor Bill Fivaz, should be honored while they are alive (in addition to what they have already been awarded).
Hey, I'm computer illiterate but an ANA Facebook page would work. Open to anyone not in the Hall of Fame already and once making the Hall, they would be removed from the Facebook page. After receiving 800 nominations a numismatist would be recognized for their contributions. Some folks would be put on immediately to kick it off. Many could be plucked right off the RedBook pages or the ANA Centennial books.
J.T. gained a number of awards during his life.
- 1992 ANA Outstanding Adult Advisor
- 1992 CONECA Lonesome John Devine Photography Award
- 1992 CONECA Lyndon King Award
- 1993 ANA Numismatic Ambassador Award
- 1995 ANA Presidential Award
- 2003 CONECA Hall of Fame
PCGS has the CoinFacts Dealer Hall of Fame which was award to Kevin Lipton in 2017.
FUN also has its Ambassador Awards given to Tony Bonaro, Mike Ellis, Rod Gillis, Brett Irick, and David Lisot this year
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@Zoins said:
@Insider2 said:
Someone who wrote the notice just picked a meaningless word. "Professional" as suggested above was a better choice.It is a shame that the ANA does not have something in addition to their Hall of Fame. Deceased numismatists like McKloskey, Forman, J.T., Reed, Hoskins, Hancock, Fleishman, Kagin, Margolis, and a hundred others plus deserving numismatists still alive today like his coauthor Bill Fivaz, should be honored while they are alive (in addition to what they have already been awarded).
Hey, I'm computer illiterate but an ANA Facebook page would work. Open to anyone not in the Hall of Fame already and once making the Hall, they would be removed from the Facebook page. After receiving 800 nominations a numismatist would be recognized for their contributions. Some folks would be put on immediately to kick it off. Many could be plucked right off the RedBook pages or the ANA Centennial books.
J.T. gained a number of awards during his life.
- 1992 ANA Outstanding Adult Advisor
- 1992 CONECA Lonesome John Devine Photography Award
- 1992 CONECA Lyndon King Award
- 1993 ANA Numismatic Ambassador Award
- 1995 ANA Presidential Award
- 2003 CONECA Hall of Fame
PCGS has the CoinFacts Dealer Hall of Fame which was award to Kevin Lipton in 2017.
FUN also has its Ambassador Awards given to Tony Bonaro, Mike Ellis, Rod Gillis, Brett Irick, and David Lisot this year
I know all about these awards, IMO, there are hundreds of others that should be recognized "for all time" in ONE PLACE (perhaps the ANA Facebook).
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@Insider2 said:
@Zoins said:
@Insider2 said:
Someone who wrote the notice just picked a meaningless word. "Professional" as suggested above was a better choice.It is a shame that the ANA does not have something in addition to their Hall of Fame. Deceased numismatists like McKloskey, Forman, J.T., Reed, Hoskins, Hancock, Fleishman, Kagin, Margolis, and a hundred others plus deserving numismatists still alive today like his coauthor Bill Fivaz, should be honored while they are alive (in addition to what they have already been awarded).
Hey, I'm computer illiterate but an ANA Facebook page would work. Open to anyone not in the Hall of Fame already and once making the Hall, they would be removed from the Facebook page. After receiving 800 nominations a numismatist would be recognized for their contributions. Some folks would be put on immediately to kick it off. Many could be plucked right off the RedBook pages or the ANA Centennial books.
J.T. gained a number of awards during his life.
- 1992 ANA Outstanding Adult Advisor
- 1992 CONECA Lonesome John Devine Photography Award
- 1992 CONECA Lyndon King Award
- 1993 ANA Numismatic Ambassador Award
- 1995 ANA Presidential Award
- 2003 CONECA Hall of Fame
PCGS has the CoinFacts Dealer Hall of Fame which was award to Kevin Lipton in 2017.
FUN also has its Ambassador Awards given to Tony Bonaro, Mike Ellis, Rod Gillis, Brett Irick, and David Lisot this year
I know all about these awards, IMO, there are hundreds of others that should be recognized "for all time" in ONE PLACE (perhaps the ANA Facebook).
I'm not sure I would consider ANA Facebook to be the key place but it could certainly be one place. What is wrong with an ANA webpage?
Perhaps medals should be issued for ANA Hall of Fame inductees - those could last a long time
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@Zoins said:
@Insider2 said:
@Zoins said:
@Insider2 said:
Someone who wrote the notice just picked a meaningless word. "Professional" as suggested above was a better choice.It is a shame that the ANA does not have something in addition to their Hall of Fame. Deceased numismatists like McKloskey, Forman, J.T., Reed, Hoskins, Hancock, Fleishman, Kagin, Margolis, and a hundred others plus deserving numismatists still alive today like his coauthor Bill Fivaz, should be honored while they are alive (in addition to what they have already been awarded).
Hey, I'm computer illiterate but an ANA Facebook page would work. Open to anyone not in the Hall of Fame already and once making the Hall, they would be removed from the Facebook page. After receiving 800 nominations a numismatist would be recognized for their contributions. Some folks would be put on immediately to kick it off. Many could be plucked right off the RedBook pages or the ANA Centennial books.
J.T. gained a number of awards during his life.
- 1992 ANA Outstanding Adult Advisor
- 1992 CONECA Lonesome John Devine Photography Award
- 1992 CONECA Lyndon King Award
- 1993 ANA Numismatic Ambassador Award
- 1995 ANA Presidential Award
- 2003 CONECA Hall of Fame
PCGS has the CoinFacts Dealer Hall of Fame which was award to Kevin Lipton in 2017.
FUN also has its Ambassador Awards given to Tony Bonaro, Mike Ellis, Rod Gillis, Brett Irick, and David Lisot this year
I know all about these awards, IMO, there are hundreds of others that should be recognized "for all time" in ONE PLACE (perhaps the ANA Facebook).
I'm not sure I would consider ANA Facebook to be the key place.
Perhaps medals should be issued for ANA Hall of Fame inductees - those could last a long time
There are many deserving folks who had a big influence over our hobby that will never be in the ANA Hall of Fame. While a David Hall might make it in, Laura, our crazy Colonel, Tom D. (for instance) will not. I'm sure politics is involved too.
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@Insider2 said:
@Zoins said:
@Insider2 said:
@Zoins said:
@Insider2 said:
Someone who wrote the notice just picked a meaningless word. "Professional" as suggested above was a better choice.It is a shame that the ANA does not have something in addition to their Hall of Fame. Deceased numismatists like McKloskey, Forman, J.T., Reed, Hoskins, Hancock, Fleishman, Kagin, Margolis, and a hundred others plus deserving numismatists still alive today like his coauthor Bill Fivaz, should be honored while they are alive (in addition to what they have already been awarded).
Hey, I'm computer illiterate but an ANA Facebook page would work. Open to anyone not in the Hall of Fame already and once making the Hall, they would be removed from the Facebook page. After receiving 800 nominations a numismatist would be recognized for their contributions. Some folks would be put on immediately to kick it off. Many could be plucked right off the RedBook pages or the ANA Centennial books.
J.T. gained a number of awards during his life.
- 1992 ANA Outstanding Adult Advisor
- 1992 CONECA Lonesome John Devine Photography Award
- 1992 CONECA Lyndon King Award
- 1993 ANA Numismatic Ambassador Award
- 1995 ANA Presidential Award
- 2003 CONECA Hall of Fame
PCGS has the CoinFacts Dealer Hall of Fame which was award to Kevin Lipton in 2017.
FUN also has its Ambassador Awards given to Tony Bonaro, Mike Ellis, Rod Gillis, Brett Irick, and David Lisot this year
I know all about these awards, IMO, there are hundreds of others that should be recognized "for all time" in ONE PLACE (perhaps the ANA Facebook).
I'm not sure I would consider ANA Facebook to be the key place.
Perhaps medals should be issued for ANA Hall of Fame inductees - those could last a long time
There are many deserving folks who had a big influence over our hobby that will never be in the ANA Hall of Fame. While a David Hall might make it in, Laura, our crazy Colonel, Tom D. (for instance) will not. I'm sure politics is involved too.
That's bad news for @specialist, @ColonelJessup and @CaptHenway
At least Laura was a Governor.
"Hall of Fame" is a great designation because it transcends coins to other areas.
Are you suggesting a non-ANA Hall of Fame that is posted on the ANA Facebook page?
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@Zoins said:
@Insider2 said:
@Zoins said:
@Insider2 said:
@Zoins said:
@Insider2 said:
Someone who wrote the notice just picked a meaningless word. "Professional" as suggested above was a better choice.It is a shame that the ANA does not have something in addition to their Hall of Fame. Deceased numismatists like McKloskey, Forman, J.T., Reed, Hoskins, Hancock, Fleishman, Kagin, Margolis, and a hundred others plus deserving numismatists still alive today like his coauthor Bill Fivaz, should be honored while they are alive (in addition to what they have already been awarded).
Hey, I'm computer illiterate but an ANA Facebook page would work. Open to anyone not in the Hall of Fame already and once making the Hall, they would be removed from the Facebook page. After receiving 800 nominations a numismatist would be recognized for their contributions. Some folks would be put on immediately to kick it off. Many could be plucked right off the RedBook pages or the ANA Centennial books.
J.T. gained a number of awards during his life.
- 1992 ANA Outstanding Adult Advisor
- 1992 CONECA Lonesome John Devine Photography Award
- 1992 CONECA Lyndon King Award
- 1993 ANA Numismatic Ambassador Award
- 1995 ANA Presidential Award
- 2003 CONECA Hall of Fame
PCGS has the CoinFacts Dealer Hall of Fame which was award to Kevin Lipton in 2017.
FUN also has its Ambassador Awards given to Tony Bonaro, Mike Ellis, Rod Gillis, Brett Irick, and David Lisot this year
I know all about these awards, IMO, there are hundreds of others that should be recognized "for all time" in ONE PLACE (perhaps the ANA Facebook).
I'm not sure I would consider ANA Facebook to be the key place.
Perhaps medals should be issued for ANA Hall of Fame inductees - those could last a long time
There are many deserving folks who had a big influence over our hobby that will never be in the ANA Hall of Fame. While a David Hall might make it in, Laura, our crazy Colonel, Tom D. (for instance) will not. I'm sure politics is involved too.
That's bad news for @specialist, @ColonelJessup and @CaptHenway
At least Laura was a Governor.
"Hall of Fame" is a great designation because it transcends coins to other areas.
Are you suggesting a non-ANA Hall of Fame that is posted on the ANA Facebook page?
John Albanese, who says he's "a little over-rated", should be in. I told JA that I too was "a little over-rated". He rather too quickly agreed but bought me sushi.
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell4 -
Listen closely for the sound of suction folks....
IMO, you're not over-rated, just heading over-the-hill.
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As implied above, it is better to remember those of the past, reward those of the present, and encourage those of the future.
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