Should I dip it?
SilverEagle420
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Hey guys I have this 1940 s Walker, which are known for being "flat as a pancake" but this one is showing a full cartwheel under all that dark toning,, it looks textile, but should I try to dip it? Or do you think it will come up looking worse.
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I would leave it alone might make it a lot worse IMHO
Yea that was my concern, but I also worry what itll look like in years to come Haha
You may want to try and wash it in Acetone first and rinse with Distilled Water, to remove any potential PVC contamination and perhaps also some other contaminants.
Stuart
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Acetone is what I meant by "dip", I did not think about distilled water though,, I would need to go to the store for that
Do whatever you think is best.
Very few coins I would use EZE dip. I would consider it on this one.
Do you think the flat look is a thin film of debris? I say a five second dip in acetone and then a dip in distilled water. IMO. Peace Roy
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I can see luater underneath all that,, but I've seen some on threads here that got a bath and came out lookin horrible lol
No distilled H2O needed. Just let it dry after the first acetone rinse (30 secs?) and immerse it in another small batch of previously unused acetone (i.e. not the first rinse).
Notice how I avoided the term dip?
Dip very consistently is misinterpreted to imply/suggest acid (e.g. E-Z-Est), even if that meaning is actually wrongly inferred
I would need to go to the store for that? I would need to go to the store for that? I would need to …. WHAT?
Please pay someone else to conserve your coins
Acetone will only clean off the crud. It won't mess with the metal surface of the coin like Dip will. Be aware that if the crud is hiding imperfections you just might get to see them after the bath though. 5 seconds/minutes or an hour in Acetone should not make a difference here as it is not Dip. I would start here.
If it looks similar after its bath, then I might consider a couple seconds in Dip to see if that haze comes off. I have not ever dipped a coin but I see potential here. I understand that lots of clean distilled water rinsing is a requirement if you go that route. I am sure there are plenty of knowledgeable members here that could give advice.
I was saying I'd have to go buy distilled water... cause I'm on well water at my property
Go to the store? Go to the store?
My local hospital has twice as many kidney stone patients as one 5 miles away because my town has a different water company. Whatever's in your well water is likely less tacky than here in NNJ.
Notwithstanding that, if I'm dipping something (at home) with any kind of value, I have what Jason Carter once called my "neurotic rinse" routine.
If I'm dipping a coin on the road, I'll pay the big bucks to the mini-bar to avoid the tap water.
I don't know what the trace elements in your well water are, but....
Before dipping,
Immerse coin in acetone and very lightly Q-tip coin on both sides.
Put aside.
Heat water to a full boil.
Pour into ceramic, porcelain, glass etc. bowl
Dip coin.
Rinse under faucet 15 seconds.
Place coin in any large size (4"?) paper coffee filter.
Immerse coffee filter in boiled (no longer boiling) water 30 seconds.
Let cool.
Place coin on consumer-quality paper towel and press very lightly ten seconds so both sides make contact with the paper. Capillary action will take the water away.
Avoid staples.
This is probably for another thread. but likely works no matter how hard you work the above protocol.
Translation: everything white can be blue again. LOL, I'm guaranteeing maybe-not-so-pretty blue,
Put coin in Wayte Raymond board.
Place board on windowsill with predictably strong variations in humidity and temperature.
Wait 30 years.
Rinse and repeat
In answer to the OP's original query.
That coin will turn into crap in "dip".
Inside-flip image "suggests" likely PVC damage under the haze.
An "above-average" 40-S strike is still a piss-poor strike and only matters on uncs..
You pay over $30?
Always start with acetone to deal with any organic crud. Be aware that acetone will also remove oils on the surface of the coin that have accumulated over the years. Often the result is a dried-out look (which can later be helped along with a little CoinCare or Blue Ribbon).
Acetone will do nothing to toning. It will not remove old fingerprints either (which might be what you're seeing in the upper right obverse). The acetone bath can be quick or not. Doesn't matter. No harm will come from bathing a long time. Little-to-no benefit either.
If acetone appears to do little and you are still troubled by dark spots, haze, uneven toning, etc. then you can try a quick dip in eZest. You might start with a diluted dip (mix with water) and re-dip if you like what you're seeing but need stronger.
eZest will remove toning. It won't do much for old prints as they tend to etch into the coin's surface. Thick, stubborn toning may persist somewhat.
This isn't a valuable or scarce coin so you're not risking much. If you have some old junk silver to practice on that's not a bad idea.
I have less experience with MS70. I think of it for treating spots and not as a dip. Someone else may care to comment on that treatment.
Lance.
Acetone dip and then leave it be.
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I cannot possibly add to what @ColonelJessup has detailed above.... Great advice....Cheers, RickO
Yes it was good advice, till the last paragraph,, it's an album coin and I wanted to make it look better, I was concerned about ruining it,, not about what price I could fetch or what I paid for it, but I followed advice and I'm happy with it
I have a 1917 obverse S that needs it too but that one I'm deff more cautious towards and havent done it
I will add to the above that I always start with diluted dip (at least 75% water) because the idea is to strip off the corrosion as incrementally as possible, even if it turns out that 100% dip would have been the answer from the start.
Please don't clean coins. Leave her alone.
Dave
I am a big fan of MS70 for hazy silver proofs and uncs with crud on them.
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Don’t dip circulated coins period..