Nice. It seems like it has no prior pedigree. If so, it can just be known as the Morelan Specimen. Kind of nice to have the first spot in a pedigree list of such an old coin!
I like how the description says, "The connoisseur of early American coinage will find this coin to be a true treasure."
You seriously think it has no prior pedigree.....how much research did u do to come up with that statement of fact?
More than you?
I did note earlier that it’s currently in timgoth99’s Registry Set but haven’t found anything before that or a name for timgoth99 yet. It seems plausible that the set belongs to a Tim Goth but searches haven’t turned one up yet.
Nice. It seems like it has no prior pedigree. If so, it can just be known as the Morelan Specimen. Kind of nice to have the first spot in a pedigree list of such an old coin!
I like how the description says, "The connoisseur of early American coinage will find this coin to be a true treasure."
You seriously think it has no prior pedigree.....how much research did u do to come up with that statement of fact?
Prefacing a comment with "It seems like" is not making a statement of fact, Give the guy a break.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Nice. It seems like it has no prior pedigree. If so, it can just be known as the Morelan Specimen. Kind of nice to have the first spot in a pedigree list of such an old coin!
I like how the description says, "The connoisseur of early American coinage will find this coin to be a true treasure."
You seriously think it has no prior pedigree.....how much research did u do to come up with that statement of fact?
Prefacing a comment with "It seems like" is not making a statement of fact, Give the guy a break.
Just messing around Dad. I forgot to place an emoji, what is my punishment?
Sorry, but I don't believe you were just "messing around".
Regardless, your punishment is no posting (under any username). Please note the lack of an emoji that might give the impression I'm messing around.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Nice. It seems like it has no prior pedigree. If so, it can just be known as the Morelan Specimen. Kind of nice to have the first spot in a pedigree list of such an old coin!
I like how the description says, "The connoisseur of early American coinage will find this coin to be a true treasure."
You seriously think it has no prior pedigree.....how much research did u do to come up with that statement of fact?
Prefacing a comment with "It seems like" is not making a statement of fact, Give the guy a break.
Just messing around Dad. I forgot to place an emoji, what is my punishment?
Sorry, but I don't believe you were just "messing around".
Regardless, your punishment is no posting (under any username). Please note the lack of an emoji that might give the impression I'm messing around.
Oh shoot I forgot the Great Feldini is a fortune teller, mind reader, illusionist, trickster and trouble maker. I will make note, thank you for your invaluable input. Glad you are back, what would we all have done without your presence your eminence.
He certainly was missed more than you and your alt @afford. I'm just surprised they let you back as you always seem to find trouble even with the tamest of posters.
Nice. It seems like it has no prior pedigree. If so, it can just be known as the Morelan Specimen. Kind of nice to have the first spot in a pedigree list of such an old coin!
I like how the description says, "The connoisseur of early American coinage will find this coin to be a true treasure."
You seriously think it has no prior pedigree.....how much research did u do to come up with that statement of fact?
Prefacing a comment with "It seems like" is not making a statement of fact, Give the guy a break.
Just messing around Dad. I forgot to place an emoji, what is my punishment?
Sorry, but I don't believe you were just "messing around".
Regardless, your punishment is no posting (under any username). Please note the lack of an emoji that might give the impression I'm messing around.
Oh shoot I forgot the Great Feldini is a fortune teller, mind reader, illusionist, trickster and trouble maker. I will make note, thank you for your invaluable input. Glad you are back, what would we all have done without your presence your eminence.
Edited to add you should know me better, if I knew the pedigree I would have worded it differently, but I don't and I don't have the time to research it and I don't even want to however great coins have always been owned by great collectors and I have to beleuve in 150 years or so a great collector had to have owned that great piece.
I think there's an excellent chance that you're correct about the provenance. Maybe that information will be unearthed.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
@tradedollarnut said:
Still 3 months to go on the house - but yes the backyard grass is in
THANK YOU!
I thought it had a curved, concrete, water-filled "something" in the yard. I don't think it was a pool. Looked more like a river ride at an amusement park.
Nice. It seems like it has no prior pedigree. If so, it can just be known as the Morelan Specimen. Kind of nice to have the first spot in a pedigree list of such an old coin!
I like how the description says, "The connoisseur of early American coinage will find this coin to be a true treasure."
You seriously think it has no prior pedigree.....how much research did u do to come up with that statement of fact?
Prefacing a comment with "It seems like" is not making a statement of fact, Give the guy a break.
Just messing around Dad. I forgot to place an emoji, what is my punishment?
Sorry, but I don't believe you were just "messing around".
Regardless, your punishment is no posting (under any username). Please note the lack of an emoji that might give the impression I'm messing around.
Oh shoot I forgot the Great Feldini is a fortune teller, mind reader, illusionist, trickster and trouble maker. I will make note, thank you for your invaluable input. Glad you are back, what would we all have done without your presence your eminence.
Edited to add you should know me better, if I knew the pedigree I would have worded it differently, but I don't and I don't have the time to research it and I don't even want to however great coins have always been owned by great collectors and I have to beleuve in 150 years or so a great collector had to have owned that great piece.
I think there's an excellent chance that you're correct about the provenance. Maybe that information will be unearthed.
I hope someone can unearth it. After all his interest, I'm sorry to hear @Realone won't be looking.
I assume that somewhere in the house there is a numismatic equivalent to a "Man Cave" [aka a "Coin Cave"; or a "Coin Vault"; or maybe a "Scrooge Mc Duck vault with diving board"].
@tradedollarnut said:
Well, it’s not Knoxville nor Eliasberg
Just told by the broker (if I heard correctly) that it was formerly in an NGC 67 holder but got sidetracked by the coin itself. . We mostly talked about the PL and the cameo effect in-hand. And the strike. How awful (or not) were the micro-ticks on the reverse that brought it down from 67. He may know where it came from (after it emerged from the time machine)
I got a sense the pictures do not do it full justice.
Do the pictures of your house reveal the 1st tee just beyond your back yard?
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
Great that you have a stone house...or hopefully tough stucco house! My last house was on a golf course....had a nice safe spot almost in front of a tee box but had great views. Lotsa folks around had golf ball damage but not me!
@tradedollarnut said:
12th tee, actually ....but I think what you’re seeing is 11th green
MFeld - The only dig is at ignorance. Probably a wonderful coin, but is that all it is? When posting some magnificent result of the coiner's work, viewers should expect more than crow-enticing shiny objects. Flowery nonsense aides the education and long-term interest of no one - not even the crows.
If this is a "new" specimen, then how it was found and how it relates to others is the story, The "cost" is immaterial and ephemeral; it will change next time the coin changes hands.
If BM is the owner/discoverer, then he should be honored to write and publish the details for all to enjoy....or at least as much as can be reasonably presented.
@RogerB said:
MFeld - The only dig is at ignorance. Probably a wonderful coin, but is that all it is? When posting some magnificent result of the coiner's work, viewers should expect more than crow-enticing shiny objects. Flowery nonsense aides the education and long-term interest of no one - not even the crows.
If this is a "new" specimen, then how it was found and how it relates to others is the story, The "cost" is immaterial and ephemeral; it will change next time the coin changes hands.
If BM is the owner/discoverer, then he should be honored to write and publish the details for all to enjoy....or at least as much as can be reasonably presented.
@RogerB said:
MFeld - The only dig is at ignorance. Probably a wonderful coin, but is that all it is? When posting some magnificent result of the coiner's work, viewers should expect more than crow-enticing shiny objects. Flowery nonsense aides the education and long-term interest of no one - not even the crows.
If this is a "new" specimen, then how it was found and how it relates to others is the story, The "cost" is immaterial and ephemeral; it will change next time the coin changes hands.
If BM is the owner/discoverer, then he should be honored to write and publish the details for all to enjoy....or at least as much as can be reasonably presented.
I could not disagree more.
Bruce never mentioned price.
A work of art can still be worth viewing even if you don't know the artist and don't know who owned it last.
I love when people who do NOT trade in coins day to day make ignorant talk. Look, I don't always agree with Bruce sharing his coins, but this one IS special.
Can't people here just let him enjoy it as is? why do the wannabes have to scream to the world about how much they do not know. I agree knowing some of the provence can be cool-but geez, Bruce is just thrilled to look at the coin every day.
I don't care what people say here, I know as does the southern fried colonial only a handful of people will ever get to see, much less hold a coin like this. Me personally, I am thrilled I can say I placed it-and I have handled the MS67's. Let Bruce enjoy the coin. Look at it, talk about it being prooflike. Drop the other chatter garbage.
And you people wonder why the likes of a Simpson, Hedgie, or the big birds won't even look at this place. You fake news wannbees just say thank you Bruce for sharing.
My last words, I am in "discussions" with Bruce about moving into the guest house. Seems to be a slight misunderstanding. Its okay, I have leverage. I find the better coins he wants!
@RogerB said:
MFeld - The only dig is at ignorance. Probably a wonderful coin, but is that all it is? When posting some magnificent result of the coiner's work, viewers should expect more than crow-enticing shiny objects. Flowery nonsense aides the education and long-term interest of no one - not even the crows.
If this is a "new" specimen, then how it was found and how it relates to others is the story, The "cost" is immaterial and ephemeral; it will change next time the coin changes hands.
If BM is the owner/discoverer, then he should be honored to write and publish the details for all to enjoy....or at least as much as can be reasonably presented.
I enjoy the eye candy. I'm happy when owners post.
If researchers want to post information, that's good too. It's not necessary for researchers to expect everyone to be a researcher all of the time.
@RogerB said:
MFeld - The only dig is at ignorance. Probably a wonderful coin, but is that all it is? When posting some magnificent result of the coiner's work, viewers should expect more than crow-enticing shiny objects. Flowery nonsense aides the education and long-term interest of no one - not even the crows.
If this is a "new" specimen, then how it was found and how it relates to others is the story, The "cost" is immaterial and ephemeral; it will change next time the coin changes hands.
If BM is the owner/discoverer, then he should be honored to write and publish the details for all to enjoy....or at least as much as can be reasonably presented.
I enjoy the eye candy. I'm happy when owners post.
If researchers want to post information, that's good to. It's not necessary for researchers to expect everyone to be a researcher.
To be honest I pedigree every coin in my collection. I have a huge coin library and spend countless hours researching. I am fully aware that most don't care about pedigrees, I happen to love them its akin to the history of the coin and that is my first love. But since I spend so much time, doing it for free or doing for those who don't care doesn't encourage me to go out and do it and thus I end up just doing it for myself.
Do you publish your pedigree information? All your research deserves to be preserved with the coins. I know some posted pedigrees on their Registry Sets but there may be other great ways to post that information.
I do recall you saying that you care about old pedigrees but not more recent ones. Do you keep track of newer pedigrees for your coins, or not?
@RogerB said:
MFeld - The only dig is at ignorance. Probably a wonderful coin, but is that all it is? When posting some magnificent result of the coiner's work, viewers should expect more than crow-enticing shiny objects. Flowery nonsense aides the education and long-term interest of no one - not even the crows.
If this is a "new" specimen, then how it was found and how it relates to others is the story, The "cost" is immaterial and ephemeral; it will change next time the coin changes hands.
If BM is the owner/discoverer, then he should be honored to write and publish the details for all to enjoy....or at least as much as can be reasonably presented.
I enjoy the eye candy. I'm happy when owners post.
If researchers want to post information, that's good to. It's not necessary for researchers to expect everyone to be a researcher.
To be honest I pedigree every coin in my collection. I have a huge coin library and spend countless hours researching. I am fully aware that most don't care about pedigrees, I happen to love them its akin to the history of the coin and that is my first love. But since I spend so much time, doing it for free or doing for those who don't care doesn't encourage me to go out and do it and thus I end up just doing it for myself.
Do you publish your pedigree information? All your research deserves to be preserved with the coins. I know some posted pedigrees on their Registry Sets but there may be other great ways to post that information.
I do recall you saying that you care about old pedigrees but not more recent ones. Do you keep track of newer pedigrees for your coins, or not?
I don't publish other than here really. And I don't do the Registry thingy. I preserve my own pedigree info in my personal notes and/or right here. I only pedigree the older stuff, nothing new. Just the ole time collectors/numismatics/dealers.
Edited to add, I do have pcgs put it on the holder.
Good to know you have it added to the holder. Unfortunately, we know it's just as easy as for the next owner to request PCGS remove pedigree information from a holder, so a more permanent record is nice.
One place that might be interesting to add the information you found may be in Heritage listings if you sell there.
Nice images of your new home and beautiful coin, thanks for posting. This might be of interest to you as you settle into your new abode and something to consider:
"One look at the bathtub ring around Lake Mead would tell you water is scarce in the mighty Colorado, which is fed by snowmelt in the Rocky Mountains.
The Southern Nevada Water Authority has done an excellent job shaming people into switching from grass lawns to desert landscaping over the years (except for the golf courses; they can use as much water as they want if they keep the tourists coming). But their water conservation propaganda efforts might not be enough if the drought continues."
It's pretty tedious reading through the innuendo etc, and excuse my ignorance on the coin, but here's a question - considering the die crack and weakness of the stars on the left side, along with the prooflike surfaces and great flow lines - it looks like a really early strike from a die that didn't last long. Were there other die combinations?
"Wow" doesn't begin to cover it, congrats.
Q: Are You Printing Money? Bernanke: Not Literally
@specialist said:
In the second picture, that is MY GUEST guest house!!! Don't need a hotel in Vegas anymore. And will probably made it apart time residence
Bruce is a very lucky man
m
Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
@specialist said:
In the second picture, that is MY GUEST guest house!!! Don't need a hotel in Vegas anymore. And will probably made it apart time residence
Bruce is a very lucky man
m
I know what you mean but "luck" is probably just a tiny part of the equation. I consider you to be a lucky man too!
A coworker likes to tell us that he feels lucky every morning he wakes above ground.
@specialist said:
In the second picture, that is MY GUEST guest house!!! Don't need a hotel in Vegas anymore. And will probably made it apart time residence
Bruce is a very lucky man
m
I know what you mean but "luck" is probably just a tiny part of the equation. I consider you to be a lucky man too!
A coworker likes to tell us that he feels lucky every morning he wakes above ground.
I meant that Bruce is very “ lucky” to potentially have Laura living just steps away from him. Almost like a dream come true
m
Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
I’m sure she was but I thought the whole thing very funny. I practically have a whole season written on my dinner napkin for this sit com gold in the making
m
Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
@specialist said:
In the second picture, that is MY GUEST guest house!!! Don't need a hotel in Vegas anymore. And will probably made it apart time residence
Bruce is a very lucky man
m
I know what you mean but "luck" is probably just a tiny part of the equation. I consider you to be a lucky man too!
A coworker likes to tell us that he feels lucky every morning he wakes above ground.
I meant that Bruce is very “ lucky” to potentially have Laura living just steps away from him. Almost like a dream come true
@specialist said:
In the second picture, that is MY GUEST guest house!!! Don't need a hotel in Vegas anymore. And will probably made it apart time residence
Bruce is a very lucky man
m
I know what you mean but "luck" is probably just a tiny part of the equation. I consider you to be a lucky man too!
A coworker likes to tell us that he feels lucky every morning he wakes above ground.
I meant that Bruce is very “ lucky” to potentially have Laura living just steps away from him. Almost like a dream come true
@specialist said:
In the second picture, that is MY GUEST guest house!!! Don't need a hotel in Vegas anymore. And will probably made it apart time residence
Bruce is a very lucky man
m
I know what you mean but "luck" is probably just a tiny part of the equation. I consider you to be a lucky man too!
A coworker likes to tell us that he feels lucky every morning he wakes above ground.
I meant that Bruce is very “ lucky” to potentially have Laura living just steps away from him. Almost like a dream come true
m
Do you have a nice guest house?
I have a tent out back
m
Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Comments
More than you?
I did note earlier that it’s currently in timgoth99’s Registry Set but haven’t found anything before that or a name for timgoth99 yet. It seems plausible that the set belongs to a Tim Goth but searches haven’t turned one up yet.
Looking forward to your research results
wicked nice, I like
Nice shack Bruce!
Prefacing a comment with "It seems like" is not making a statement of fact, Give the guy a break.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Looking twice, thrice and then some more at the coin photos and video in this thread makes one thing abundantly clear.
Humans are very skilled at creating items of timeless beauty with their minds and bodies alone, without the need for any outside assistance.
This coin is a thing of beauty that was created by skilled craftsmen with metal, coin dies, a screw press, human muscle and the human mind.
People who can create things of beauty with their minds and hands are amazing.
Sorry, but I don't believe you were just "messing around".
Regardless, your punishment is no posting (under any username). Please note the lack of an emoji that might give the impression I'm messing around.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
He certainly was missed more than you and your alt @afford. I'm just surprised they let you back as you always seem to find trouble even with the tamest of posters.
I think there's an excellent chance that you're correct about the provenance. Maybe that information will be unearthed.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Well, it’s not Knoxville nor Eliasberg
THANK YOU!
I thought it had a curved, concrete, water-filled "something" in the yard. I don't think it was a pool. Looked more like a river ride at an amusement park.
I hope someone can unearth it. After all his interest, I'm sorry to hear @Realone won't be looking.
Nice house.
I assume that somewhere in the house there is a numismatic equivalent to a "Man Cave" [aka a "Coin Cave"; or a "Coin Vault"; or maybe a "Scrooge Mc Duck vault with diving board"].
Or maybe the entire house will suffice for same
Just told by the broker (if I heard correctly) that it was formerly in an NGC 67 holder but got sidetracked by the coin itself.
. We mostly talked about the PL and the cameo effect in-hand. And the strike. How awful (or not) were the micro-ticks on the reverse that brought it down from 67. He may know where it came from (after it emerged from the time machine) 
I got a sense the pictures do not do it full justice.
Do the pictures of your house reveal the 1st tee just beyond your back yard?
12th tee, actually ....but I think what you’re seeing is 11th green
Great that you have a stone house...or hopefully tough stucco house! My last house was on a golf course....had a nice safe spot almost in front of a tee box but had great views. Lotsa folks around had golf ball damage but not me!
MFeld - The only dig is at ignorance. Probably a wonderful coin, but is that all it is? When posting some magnificent result of the coiner's work, viewers should expect more than crow-enticing shiny objects. Flowery nonsense aides the education and long-term interest of no one - not even the crows.
If this is a "new" specimen, then how it was found and how it relates to others is the story, The "cost" is immaterial and ephemeral; it will change next time the coin changes hands.
If BM is the owner/discoverer, then he should be honored to write and publish the details for all to enjoy....or at least as much as can be reasonably presented.
But it adds to our enjoyment of the hobby nonetheless...
You beat me to it - “enjoyment” is the word that quickly came to mind.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
I never once discussed cost. Just beauty
I could not disagree more.
Ouch.
If you only knew.
I love when people who do NOT trade in coins day to day make ignorant talk. Look, I don't always agree with Bruce sharing his coins, but this one IS special.
Can't people here just let him enjoy it as is? why do the wannabes have to scream to the world about how much they do not know. I agree knowing some of the provence can be cool-but geez, Bruce is just thrilled to look at the coin every day.
I don't care what people say here, I know as does the southern fried colonial
only a handful of people will ever get to see, much less hold a coin like this. Me personally, I am thrilled I can say I placed it-and I have handled the MS67's. Let Bruce enjoy the coin. Look at it, talk about it being prooflike. Drop the other chatter garbage.
And you people wonder why the likes of a Simpson, Hedgie, or the big birds won't even look at this place. You fake news wannbees just say thank you Bruce for sharing.
My last words, I am in "discussions" with Bruce about moving into the guest house. Seems to be a slight misunderstanding. Its okay, I have leverage. I find the better coins he wants!
Awesome!!! Now you have an uber gem PL half dime to go with your mind blowing DPL 1794 Dollar!!
remarkable coin. Love it!
I enjoy the eye candy. I'm happy when owners post.
If researchers want to post information, that's good too. It's not necessary for researchers to expect everyone to be a researcher all of the time.
Do you publish your pedigree information? All your research deserves to be preserved with the coins. I know some posted pedigrees on their Registry Sets but there may be other great ways to post that information.
I do recall you saying that you care about old pedigrees but not more recent ones. Do you keep track of newer pedigrees for your coins, or not?
I love finding a lost provenance. I’m just not gonna do it when I’m tweaked by smoebody
Yeah, I don't really understand the post, but there's been a series of them with a similar angle recently.
Good to know you have it added to the holder. Unfortunately, we know it's just as easy as for the next owner to request PCGS remove pedigree information from a holder, so a more permanent record is nice.
One place that might be interesting to add the information you found may be in Heritage listings if you sell there.
Nice images of your new home and beautiful coin, thanks for posting. This might be of interest to you as you settle into your new abode and something to consider:
http://nevadasagebrush.com/blog/2018/04/10/nevada-must-start-thinking-about-water-solutions/
"One look at the bathtub ring around Lake Mead would tell you water is scarce in the mighty Colorado, which is fed by snowmelt in the Rocky Mountains.
The Southern Nevada Water Authority has done an excellent job shaming people into switching from grass lawns to desert landscaping over the years (except for the golf courses; they can use as much water as they want if they keep the tourists coming). But their water conservation propaganda efforts might not be enough if the drought continues."
Best, Al
It's pretty tedious reading through the innuendo etc, and excuse my ignorance on the coin, but here's a question - considering the die crack and weakness of the stars on the left side, along with the prooflike surfaces and great flow lines - it looks like a really early strike from a die that didn't last long. Were there other die combinations?
"Wow" doesn't begin to cover it, congrats.
I knew it would happen.
Bruce is a very lucky man
m
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
I know what you mean but "luck" is probably just a tiny part of the equation. I consider you to be a lucky man too!
A coworker likes to tell us that he feels lucky every morning he wakes above ground.
I meant that Bruce is very “ lucky” to potentially have Laura living just steps away from him. Almost like a dream come true
m
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
I thought she was kidding. Does she (@specialist) snore?
You've taken up skateboarding ? (at your age?😀)
I’m sure she was but I thought the whole thing very funny. I practically have a whole season written on my dinner napkin for this sit com gold in the making
m
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Do you have a nice guest house?
I have a tent out back
m
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Beautiful
If that house is in Vegas I’ll warn you if I ever play that course to shield your roof tiles.
My Ebay Store
Make sure they don't make a mess on that beautiful decking when they plaster the pool.
Bruce, I dare you to run outside right now and do a cannonball!
By the way, that was a triple dog dare... so you sorta have to do it
Outstanding coin! Makes one wonder if it was coined with the same process as the SP 1794 Dollar - they seems like siblings!