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Strike Through or Scratch / Bag Mark?

DotStoreDotStore Posts: 702 ✭✭✭✭

Are these types of deep gouges a "Strike Through" or regular "Bag Marks"? This coin looks pretty good other than the deep scratch in his hair. How bad does the scratch hurt the grade?

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  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,900 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Based on the one photo it’s a contact Mark from something else and not a struck through error

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  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cannot tell from the image. Take the photo in FLORESCENT light. Strike thru errors usually have dull centers. Hits as what may be on your coin are usually shiny. Deep marks on the olanchet that were not struck out are seen on these coins. Since the coin appears to be sealed in something, it may be a detracting mark left from the planchet.

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,547 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The photo isn't good enough to make a call. So far as how it affects grade ... very negatively. People who collect this modern stuff want ultra high grade pieces. That particular defect is highly visible and is not going to be appreciated by potential buyers.

    All glory is fleeting.
  • DotStoreDotStore Posts: 702 ✭✭✭✭

    Thanks guys for the info. Unfortunately I don't have any fluorescent lighting in the entire house (I had to think about it room by room -- LOL )

    The center of the scratch is shiny, so it's probably just a bad "Hit". It's one of those 2019 Rocket Ship sets, so the picture was through the OGP coin holder, and the rocketship is still in the OGP Cellophane packaging. I didn't want to open the package so I just took the picture through all those layers.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,149 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 22, 2019 7:59AM

    @DotStore said:
    Thanks guys for the info. Unfortunately I don't have any fluorescent lighting in the entire house (I had to think about it room by room -- LOL )

    You either stocked up on old school incadescents or you have already switched over from CFLs to LED. :D

    I was going to ask if you were sure the scratch was not on the plastic but you seem to have that covered.

  • DotStoreDotStore Posts: 702 ✭✭✭✭

    @JBK - yes, we had an energy audit done by local electric company, and they changed every lightbulb in the house to LED.

    I did a search on eBay and found these two coins graded NGC MS66 PL. They appear to have the same type of hits, so I'm guessing my coin is about the same grade (plus or minus a grade depending on other grading factors they use).

  • HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looking through the plastic capsule on the rocketship Kennedy’s is rough. Why not open it up to get a better look?

    No longer FS eligible.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DotStore .... Though difficult to be sure, your 'defect' appears to be significantly deeper than the other pictures you show....I would not count on a 66 if you are thinking about sending it in for grading...Cheers, RickO

  • cruisersk1cruisersk1 Posts: 190 ✭✭✭

    Is one big mark like the OP posted worse than several smaller ones for grading?

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cruisersk1 said:
    Is one big mark like the OP posted worse than several smaller ones for grading?

    Depends on where the mark/marks are located. That goes for marks of all types, sizes, and amounts.

  • DotStoreDotStore Posts: 702 ✭✭✭✭

    @Hemispherical
    I realize opening it would make for a clearer picture. But in case I sell it on eBay, I would want to be able to say I have never opened the seal

    @ricko
    thanks - I don't plan to send it in for grading since it would probably be a losing proposition (grading fees and shipping back and forth would cost more than the value of the graded coin).

  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Certainly looks like a contact mark from another half. IMO. Peace Roy

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  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Namvet69 said:
    Certainly looks like a contact mark from another half. IMO. Peace Roy

    More like from a Panamanian 50 Centavo. :p

  • thefinnthefinn Posts: 2,657 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Typical U.S. Mint quality control nowadays. And they wonder why they are losing customers.

    thefinn
  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,180 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Another possibility is that it's a heavy mark on the planchet that wasn't struck out. Still kills the value, though, for people that are looking for ultra-grade moderns.

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