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Which one would you keep? Retook Pictures of #2

amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited April 6, 2019 9:44AM in U.S. Coin Forum

I retook pictures of #2 so the lighting conditions would be the same! I took the other pictures 4 years ago.

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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 32,557 ✭✭✭✭✭

    the top one. fwiw

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    ARCOARCO Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Trick question? The first one for sure.

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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not at all! They both grade the same.

    @ARCO said:
    Trick question? The first one for sure.

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    HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 6, 2019 10:41AM

    No. 1

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 16,688 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’m not crazy about either coin. However, the first one (which is winning the contest, thus far) appears to have less luster, exhibits a scratch on the face and a carbon fleck under one of the leaves beneath the eagle’s (facing) left wing. So to me, the choice would not be a slam dunk. I’d probably pass on both.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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    smokincoinsmokincoin Posts: 2,636 ✭✭✭

    1 for me.

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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's actually 3 reed marks from another coin.

    @Hydrant said:
    The second one. What's up with the tail feathers?

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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not many choices out there on this one! You are looking at 40% of the current population.

    @MFeld said:
    I’m not crazy about either coin. However, the first one (which is winning the contest, thus far) appears to have less luster, exhibits a scratch on the face and a carbon fleck under one of the leaves beneath the eagle’s (facing) left wing. So to me, the choice would not be a slam dunk. I’d probably pass on both.

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 16,688 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 6, 2019 9:52AM

    @amwldcoin said:
    Not many choices out there on this one! You are looking at 40% of the current population.

    @MFeld said:
    I’m not crazy about either coin. Howevher, the first one (which is winning the contest, thus far) appears to have less luster, exhibits a scratch on the face and a carbon fleck under one of the leaves beneath the eagle’s (facing) left wing. So to me, the choice would not be a slam dunk. I’d probably pass on both.

    I tend to be particular and patient. And there are other grades available.😉

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    JA likes #2! The other I seriously doubt he would.

    @MFeld said:

    @amwldcoin said:
    Not many choices out there on this one! You are looking at 40% of the current population.

    @MFeld said:
    I’m not crazy about either coin. However, the first one (which is winning the contest, thus far) appears to have less luster, exhibits a scratch on the face and a carbon fleck under one of the leaves beneath the eagle’s (facing) left wing. So to me, the choice would not be a slam dunk. I’d probably pass on both.

    I tend to be particular and patient.😉

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    ARCOARCO Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 6, 2019 9:55AM

    @MFeld said:
    I’m not crazy about either coin. However, the first one (which is winning the contest, thus far) appears to have less luster, exhibits a scratch on the face and a carbon fleck under one of the leaves beneath the eagle’s (facing) left wing. So to me, the choice would not be a slam dunk. I’d probably pass on both.

    You are going to have to wait a few lifetimes to find a 1901-S finer than the first IMO. Also the bright looking scratch on the face is most likely exacerbated by reflection of light from the photography. Of course, for me and probably most others, the real test is how the coin looks when you have it in hand and are rotating it natural light.

    What are the grades?

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    RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Of the two, I prefer #1, although #2 has some advantages in detail. Either would be a nice addition to almost any Barber half collection.

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    ARCOARCO Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The second one has mottled carbon on the face along with a jumble of small nicks and abrasions. That is the most focal point of the coin and an instant turn off, regardless of grade, plastic or green bean. The edges have turned too dark and also have mottled darker toning. Also the reverse has a larger damage hit in the tail wing feathers.

    The first coin, while it may have some very minor marks (what coin below 64 doesn't?) looks so very choice and original. That is why I asked if it was a trick question. :)

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 16,688 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @amwldcoin said:
    Not many choices out there on this one! You are looking at 40% of the current population.

    @MFeld said:
    I’m not crazy about either coin. However, the first one (which is winning the contest, thus far) appears to have less luster, exhibits a scratch on the face and a carbon fleck under one of the leaves beneath the eagle’s (facing) left wing. So to me, the choice would not be a slam dunk. I’d probably pass on both.

    I tend to be particular and patient.😉

    @ARCO said:

    @MFeld said:
    I’m not crazy about either coin. However, the first one (which is winning the contest, thus far) appears to have less luster, exhibits a scratch on the face and a carbon fleck under one of the leaves beneath the eagle’s (facing) left wing. So to me, the choice would not be a slam dunk. I’d probably pass on both.

    You are going to have to wait a few lifetimes to find a 1901-S finer than the first IMO. Also the bright looking scratch on the face is most likely exacerbated by reflection of light from the photography. Of course, for me and probably most others, the real test is how the coin looks when you have it in hand and are rotating it natural light.

    What are the grades?

    Unless, for some reason, I’m being forced to choose a particular minimum grade, I’ll look for a lower grade example that’s more pleasing to me.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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    ARCOARCO Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 6, 2019 10:07AM

    @MFeld said:

    Unless, for some reason, I’m being forced to choose a particular minimum grade, I’ll look for a lower grade example that’s more pleasing to me.

    Of course. Every collector has their preferences and it is your hard earned money. :)

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    lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 9,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If forced to choose, I keep #1.

    Tough date/mm...

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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting! I have exactly the opposite opinion of you. I guess ya know which one I'm keeping. Did ya notice the big cut above Liberty on #1. The mottling on the cheek is exaggerated a bit in my pictures...that's why I took them again but it still exaggerates their prominence a bit.

    @ARCO said:
    The second one has mottled carbon on the face along with a jumble of small nicks and abrasions. That is the most focal point of the coin and an instant turn off, regardless of grade, plastic or green bean. The edges have turned too dark and also have mottled darker toning. Also the reverse has a larger damage hit in the tail wing feathers.

    The first coin, while it may have some very minor marks (what coin below 64 doesn't?) looks so very choice and original. That is why I asked if it was a trick question. :)

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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 6, 2019 10:48AM

    They are both 58's and Mark is correct the 2nd coin has original luster while the 1st has certainly had a bath or 2 and is a bit lack luster. The POP is 5 and it is the KEY DATE for an everyman set! The POP was 4 for the longest time until #1 was just made. There is only 1 I have not seen. Of the 2 others 1 is darker and the other is a lustrous Blast White but I haven't seen it in hand so don't know about the surface quality.

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    GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,785 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like the first one best.

    GrandAm :)
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    keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1

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    jedmjedm Posts: 3,244 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Number one is more appealing to my eyes.

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,486 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 6, 2019 1:49PM

    @amwldcoin said:
    Not many choices out there on this one! You are looking at 40% of the current population.

    What do the others look like?

    With limited pops, it can be tricky to pick one to potentially upgrade or wait and potentially never have one.

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    jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 11,213 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like the eagle on the reverse of the 1st one and don't like the cheek on the 2nd one. Even with the scratch through the wreath on the 1st, it would be my pick.
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    LJenkins11LJenkins11 Posts: 860 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1st one. That cheek on #2 is my reason.

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    RayboRaybo Posts: 5,353 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm not a Barber or Morgan fan...……………...

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    georgiacop50georgiacop50 Posts: 2,909 ✭✭✭✭

    I like 2 better by far.

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    WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 10,295 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like number one because the cheek is smoother.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like number one... the reverse has considerably more detail than number two...Cheers, RickO

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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Actually what everyone is concerned about on the cheek of #2 is some light mottled toning which is not as pronounced in hand.

    @Walkerfan said:
    I like number one because the cheek is smoother.

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    YQQYQQ Posts: 3,448 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1 for me, for sure.

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    BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,933 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 7, 2019 9:20AM

    @amwldcoin said:
    Actually what everyone is concerned about on the cheek of #2 is some light mottled toning which is not as pronounced in hand.

    Well, you asked us and all we can see are the photos you’ve provided. :)

    Even if its only light toning, I still don’t like it. It’s all I can see when I look at the coin. What YOU like is all that matters.

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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 7, 2019 9:52AM

    I was actually hoping coin #1 had better luster. I'm glad most like door #1 better as hopefully it will find a good home! Now I just need to find someone who is willing to pay 66 money for it! :o

    @BryceM said:

    @amwldcoin said:
    Actually what everyone is concerned about on the cheek of #2 is some light mottled toning which is not as pronounced in hand.

    Well, you asked us and all we can see are the photos you’ve provided. :)

    Even if its only light toning, I still don’t like it. It’s all I can see when I look at the coin. What YOU like is all that matters.

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    rln_14rln_14 Posts: 686 ✭✭✭✭

    1

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