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Would restoration be helpful on these coins?

peterolsonpeterolson Posts: 6
edited March 7, 2019 11:28AM in U.S. Coin Forum

Hi. I have a few coins that came down from various relatives for which I have recently gotten trueviews. They have been graded and encapsulated for a few years, just got the gold shield and trueviews done.

PR62

PR64

MS63RB

What is the board's opinion on whether the restoration service would be helpful for these coins? I suppose it is really two questions:

  1. Would they benefit from restoration to preserve them, particularly regarding the green spot on the reverse of the 1864 Indian Cent and the dark spot on the obverse of the 1870 Indian?
  2. Would restoration provide an opportunity to increase the grades, thus justifying the restoration cost?

Thanks for your opinions in advance.

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  • HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @peterolson Welcome to the forums!

    Others will express their views on conservation but I want to say that I like the coins you posted. Thanks for showing them.

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,714 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice coins!

  • Thanks for the welcomes! Been lurking for a while. I like the coins as well, especially the proofs which were in albums with circulation strikes making up the rest of the set...

  • Aspie_RoccoAspie_Rocco Posts: 3,622 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Welcome aboard, and nice coins.
    I have been considering trying out that service too.

  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,908 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Restoration on proofs & copper can be tricky. I would leave them alone. If I could not stand it I would sell as is & replace them with a coin I found more attractive.

  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 8,554 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Are you talking about conservation to remove the spots? If so, it's a hit or miss proposition and there's no guarantee that they won't come back.

    The only "spot" that really concerns me is the green-ish spot on the reverse of the 1864 IHC just above the ribbon. Copper is one of the more reactive metals and I don't see this going away without some form of professional intervention. There are some very knowledgeable copper enthusiasts on this board that have quite a bit of expertise with copper... IHC's in particular... @EagleEye @ThePennyLady

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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,674 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I doubt if "restoration" could help the cents. Just enjoy them as they are. The nickel I am not sure about. It is a better coin and I would want an opinion from an expert in the field before fooling with it. Take it to a show that PCGS attends to get their opinion on restoration first.

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  • SilverProofQuarter1883SilverProofQuarter1883 Posts: 1,871 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 7, 2019 2:56PM

    I love PR u.s. cents 👍 hear is my PR 64 No cents V nickel

  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,810 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have limited experience with shield nickels but I do not think that it is a good candidate for restoration, same is true for the 1870 IHC as that spot/stain looks to be part of the coin not on top of it. I would consider sending in the 1864 as that green spot looks active and will get worse if so.

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  • peterolsonpeterolson Posts: 6
    edited March 7, 2019 3:18PM

    The green spot on the 1864 is the most troubling to me, I agree. The other two, the small spots are distracting but not harmful to the coin, I think.

    Any variety experts? I think the 1870 is a Shallow N

    Also, your 1883 is beautiful, markelman!

  • PTVETTERPTVETTER Posts: 6,018 ✭✭✭✭✭

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  • OuthaulOuthaul Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I love these coins. Unfortunately, they are of the "Oops...I sneezed" variety. Boogers aside, if the spot is bothering you that much, do what makes you feel good.

    Personally, I'd leave them alone.

    Welcome to the forums!

    Cheers

    Bob

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @peterolson .... Welcome aboard.... I would not recommend restoration or conservation on these coins... just enjoy them as they are. That being said, I am known to prefer mint state coins... however, it is not so well known that I will not mar an original coin surface.... Cheers, RickO

  • morgandollar1878morgandollar1878 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I will say that it might be helpful on the 1866 Proof Nickel, but I would say no don't try it with the two Indian Cents,

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  • winestevenwinesteven Posts: 4,902 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 8, 2019 12:33AM

    Copper is so very tough for PCGS Restoration to accept, since they’ll only accept it if they believe they can improve the eye appeal, and not making it worse. The good news on ALL submissions is if they don’t accept it, the cost is only $10 per coin plus round trip shipping. If they do restore the coin, they guarantee the grade will be no lower than when submitted. In my opinion, if you do submit coins for Restoration, do so not for the purpose of getting an upgrade, but for the purpose of ending up with a coin with better eye appeal, even if the grade remains the same. I’ve submitted many coins for Restoration, and of the coins they accepted, they did a terrific job. Some were upgraded by a plus, others a full grade, and many retained the same grade. The pricing for accepted coins is extremely fair. My most recent submission was a 1904 Liberty Double Eagle, MS65, and it came back 65+. In my opinion, no harm in submitting, since as noted above, they won’t touch it if in their expert opinion they will harm the current eye appeal. Good luck, and if you do submit, let us know how you make out.

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