The next time a member describes a coin as HARSHLY CLEANED, it better look like this! :)
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Harshly cleaned or buffed:
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I like it
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/quarters/washington-quarters-major-sets/washington-quarters-date-set-circulation-strikes-1932-present/publishedset/209923
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/quarters/washington-quarters-major-sets/washington-quarters-date-set-circulation-strikes-1932-present/album/209923
Harsh indeed. Good example and post.
Thanks. Educational posts like these help a lot.
Here's a warning parable for coin collectors...
Ouch. Looks like bullion now.
Nah...those are from a heavily polished die!
Good thing it is not up & down & sideway rubs
That is painful to look at...
That was harsh all right!
Ouch.
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Wire brush😂
This coin didn't have a happy ending.
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Yikes, but I like it !!!
Ouch!
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The plus with common date cleaned gold is that often the numismatic premium is only slighter higher than value of the gold. I prefer uncleaned gold, but it is easier to accept a cleaned gold coin when you still have all that gold value.
While this is truly funny (at least to you, me and three others), unfortunately, there are probably a few lurkers who may be led astray even with the wink at the end.
Actually neither. Wire (even thin brass brush) leaves much deeper scratches.
Since that’s a gold coin I’ll buy that. But! If a nickel I would say wire brush. I have one I’ll post today if I can find the time. It’s a 26-s buffalo nickel I had to take a Chance with. No cigar! I’ve shared it with one of my coin brothers already and it is quite something. Like a nightmare!!
1926-S Buff, HARSHLY cleaned. No mention of any cleaning in the listing either. Now I would guess something like steel wool or maybe something even more aggressive was used. It any rate it's bad enough to show on this thread.
Joe
That's just cabinet friction, from being stored in a cabinet full of sandpaper and dremel bits.
Ouch! looks like someone got after that with a Dremel too!
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That is one of the few slabs I've seen with the adverb "harshly" added. Great job PCGS!!
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Put it in your pocket for a while get a nice surface on it again
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/quarters/washington-quarters-major-sets/washington-quarters-date-set-circulation-strikes-1932-present/publishedset/209923
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/quarters/washington-quarters-major-sets/washington-quarters-date-set-circulation-strikes-1932-present/album/209923
I think a pencil eraser can do damage consistent with what is seen there.
Those coins need a coin Doctor.
Is it a proof ?
The date looks razor sharp.
Chris
Is there a "Ham-fisted Harshly Cleaned" designation?
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Hear is one I ruined when was 10 yeas old
Now it is squeaky clean 🧼. Or a bit too clean 🧽
Good thread....we should categorize these when the methods are known... i.e. whizzed, cloth, brush etc.....Though, of course, it is the visible results that count....Cheers, RickO
Some seriously nasty coins shown here. I can’t look anymore cause it’s hurting my eyes.
Happy hunting, Joe
i call that "steel wool toning."
it's like watching a gory movie...the horror!
This thread is a tough pill to swallow!
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Timbuk3: It's gold, and I do love this 'root of all evils'. I just love some pieces more so than others!> @markelman1125 said:
Hopefully there is no '1893' on the obverse of that one!
@batumi it’s at 1893. Just kidding. 😂🤣 I meant 1878-s 😂. No worries no 1893’s 👍
I agree 100% that some people here always want to comment that a coin has been harshly cleaned when it's a circulated coin with a few scattered hairlines. Below is one such coin that a lot of collectors might see as cleaned, but seen as circulation by Pcgs. I guess that's why some never buy raw coins.
that's a sad sight to see
I'm curious where you would draw the line, Insider on acceptable "cleaning" and too much for a numerical grade? Plus glad you were able to get out of your wheel chair!
@logger7 said: "I'm curious where YOU would draw the line, Insider on acceptable "cleaning" and too much for a numerical grade? Plus glad you were able to get out of your wheel chair!
My "line" is not important to anyone but me. I teach a strict "line" but it is still a personal thing for each student to decide. The TPGS have their own "line" and in my experience it is a wavy line.
Here is the problem, Over a dozen folks came up the the table today at the Tampa show. Only one of them suspected some of his coins were cleaned and his picks were correct. The others had no clue! Two of them were dealers.. I spent over 15 minutes teaching one man to recognize the cleaning on his coins. I wouldn't let him leave the table until he could. BIG PROBLEM, folks don't know the correct way to use a hand lens and don't know how to examine a coin properly. On top of that, there is a difference between a mishandled coin and a coin that's been improperly cleaned. So where is the "line." I don't know, does the person know what improper cleaning looks like in the first place and can he even find it when the coin's color is yelling "I'm polished!" Short of taking a grading class or personal instruction, examine as many coins in "details" slabs as you can to help develop your skills.
Most of the people who cleaned these coins probably thought they did a great job. Sad!