69 Lincoln input requested, have a few

emeraldATV · February 22, 2019 10:32PM

Came across a few of these, Yes, S is included, but not yet. Yes its in front of me and photos are limited to micro. T

rying to get a handle on double die or broad struck

emeraldATV · February 22, 2019 11:36PM

ok try this one

ifthevamzarockin · February 22, 2019 11:40PM

First one is machine/strike doubling.

Second one is post mint damage (PMD).

emeraldATV · February 22, 2019 11:46PM

Thank You. , Next question is , if an S is shown on any part of coin is that just bad luck?

ifthevamzarockin · February 22, 2019 11:56PM

The one you want to find has an S and it would not be bad luck if you found one. It is a strong easy to see doubled die.

ifthevamzarockin · February 22, 2019 11:58PM

This might help

https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1969-s-1c-doubled-die-obverse-bn/2921

ricko · February 23, 2019 5:26AM

I agree with @ifthevamzarockin ....machine doubling and PMD....Cheers, RickO

emeraldATV · February 23, 2019 9:05PM

Input on the question , " on any part of coin". See attached and let me know your thoughts, Thanks, I'll be here a while.

Hemispherical · February 23, 2019 9:16PM

@emeraldATV said:
Input on the question , " on any part of coin". See attached and let me know your thoughts, Thanks, I'll be here a while.

No “S” on any part of the pics you have posted.

What, exactly, is your question?

emeraldATV · February 23, 2019 9:31PM

Below the 9 and the 6 is what looks like a test strike. Its very clear and present almost in the correct spot. With a lot of my error coins I'm finding many of these merages, or test strikes lets call them. What kinda weight do these strikes carry in discovery.

Hemispherical · February 23, 2019 9:36PM

@emeraldATV said:
Below the 9 and the 6 is what looks like a test strike. Its very clear and present almost in the correct spot. With a lot of my error coins I'm finding many of these merages, or test strikes lets call them. What kinda weight do these strikes carry in discovery.

“Merages” or mirages... but you probably meant pareidolia, since that is what you have discovered, congrats!

emeraldATV · February 23, 2019 9:46PM

Hey , This means a lot so I have to be clear...Your saying I can call it a 1969s. If so The flood gates are gonna open. I'll explain later .

Hemispherical · February 23, 2019 11:43PM

@emeraldATV said:
Hey , This means a lot so I have to be clear...Your saying I can call it a 1969s. If so The flood gates are gonna open. I'll explain later .

You could call it pareidolia.

Oldhoopster · February 24, 2019 4:46AM

@emeraldATV said:
Below the 9 and the 6 is what looks like a test strike. Its very clear and present almost in the correct spot. With a lot of my error coins I'm finding many of these merages, or test strikes lets call them. What kinda weight do these strikes carry in discovery.

Sorry but they aren't "test strikes". I don't see anything on the 69 and the 67 looks like a minor die defect or damage when combined with some staining may make you believe you see an S.

As with any claim of something new, do you have a proposed explanation of how this would occur at the mint? Throw out a plausible hypothesis of how this happened, to start a serious discussion. Otherwise, it's just your opinion and all of the responses from knowledgeable collectors disagree

Also, if you're finding lots of them as claimed in your post, have you considered that they may not be errors? Even minor errors like small strike throughs and die cracks aren't that easy to find. That makes it extremely unlikely to find lots of something rare and unusual.

jmlanzaf · February 24, 2019 5:40AM

@emeraldATV said:
Below the 9 and the 6 is what looks like a test strike. Its very clear and present almost in the correct spot. With a lot of my error coins I'm finding many of these merages, or test strikes lets call them. What kinda weight do these strikes carry in discovery.

That is NOT how coins are made. They don't randomly strike "S" letters to test. The S is on the die itself, it cannot move around.
The "mirage" is just that, an illusion. You are looking for an "S" and so you see every curved bit of damage or even discoloration as a faint "S".

Nothing you have posted here is worth more than 1 cent...well, unless you melted it for copper weight.

JRocco · February 24, 2019 6:36AM

Hey emeraldATV
Take a few minutes and google how the minting process works.
Please review how working dies are made from a master die.
Review what a master die is.
Check out master die doubling vs working die doubling.
It's really fascinating and I believe that it will increase your desire to hunt for varieties.
It did for me.

ElmerFusterpuck · February 24, 2019 6:44AM

Some many 'alts' with decent microscope camera skills but with questionable research skills. Coincidence? Methinks not.

emeraldATV · February 24, 2019 8:15PM

I'm gonna stop the Irish cream for awhile. Thanks to all for the insight. This camera sure makes this interesting.

ifthevamzarockin · March 22, 2019 4:06PM

https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1969-s-1c-doubled-die-obverse-bn/2921

69 Lincoln input requested, have a few

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