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New variety for the 1913 type one buffalo nickel.....

BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,727 ✭✭✭✭✭

Here is a new buffalo nickel variety to look for, a 1913 type one with absolutely no trace of the designer’s initial F below date

Collector of Buffalo Nickels and other 20th century United States Coinage
a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"

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  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,353 ✭✭✭✭✭

    With an application of nic-a-date it might be there?

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I just looked to see if this variety was published in Frank Spadone's Major Variety and Oddity Guide of U.S. Coins. I have the "New" 5th Edition Published in 1971. ** It is not listed.**

    Not to change the subject but a 1916/16 Buffalo is imaged and priced at $28. 1971! Who knew back then? Not me.

  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I knew of the 1916/16 from the Spadone guide as early as the mid sixties but the substandard image therein was enhanced via a drawing and I didn't think it was a big deal. It was first reported in 1962 in the July issue of the "Numismatic Scrapbook" magazine.


    Below is the illustration from the Spadone book.

  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,727 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I was offered a fine 1916 doubled die obverse buff back around the year it appeared in the red book (1978 I think) for $250 and I passed on it!! I have handled a number of these coins over the years, probably around 10, and I still have a pcgs good-06 that has a nice clear date. What a great variety!! The 1918/7-d is just as visually appealing as the 1916/1916 IMO but fortunately for collectors it is much more reasonably priced because a lot more 8/7 coins were produced that 16/16.

    Collector of Buffalo Nickels and other 20th century United States Coinage
    a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting.... @BUFFNIXX....Since the F is incuse (and the date - still there - is raised, it is unlikely that wear removed the initial....And I do not see it noted in the CPG or Mega book.... Cheers, RickO

  • 66RB66RB Posts: 2,516 ✭✭✭

    I have a type one 1913-S ANACS EF40 without designer's initial. I sent it in to them 15 years ago and asked for whatever service it was at the time to research and note it on the label. They sent it back with no notation and said they could see the mintmark, which is laughable as it just is not there, even with imagination.

    I tried searching for my old thread with the pics, but the search engine here is useless.

  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well, it's in my book but it's not in the "Cherrypicker's Guide" so getting it attributed might be hard to do. There's a couple of second and third tier companies who would do it.


    1913-S VAR 1 ADO NF #01
    B05-13S1NF-01 FS#-05-1913S-401

    GENERAL RARITY ▼
    Scarce
    COLLECTOR INTEREST ▼
    Moderate
    OBSERVATIONS ▼
    This is one of the better known of the NF varieties. It is somewhat scarce, but it is still one of the more “findable” for this type of error, and is often available in high grade. The first image above is of a die where the nearly missing initial is probably the result of the weak peripheral strike often seen on this date rather than a true ADE; the specimen pictured on the right, however, seems to have almost certainly been caused by die abrasion.

    ESTIMATED VALUE ▼
    GD04 VG08 FN12 VF20 XF40 AU50 MS60 MS63 MS65
    $ 25 $ 35 $ 50 $ 75 $100 $135 $175 $325 $---

  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,743 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @koynekwest said:
    I knew of the 1916/16 from the Spadone guide as early as the mid sixties but the substandard image therein was enhanced via a drawing and I didn't think it was a big deal. It was first reported in 1962 in the July issue of the "Numismatic Scrapbook" magazine.


    Below is the illustration from the Spadone book.

    This is pretty funny considering that there are many design elements on the 16/16 that are doubled. You don't even need the date to ID one of those!
    What is a "Shivering buffalo"?

    Collector, occasional seller

  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Indeed!

    I have no idea what a "shivering buffalo" is and I state that under the image I posted that's in my book. There was a lot of strange things in the Spadone books. However, it was the first attempt to list some of the 2 feather varieties that I know of.

  • OnWithTheHuntOnWithTheHunt Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pretty sure this 13-S Ty1 I picked up a couple of months ago is both the 2F and NDI variety, which is also listed in Ron's book.


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  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sure is, John. Nice one, too.

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