Real or fake

PTVETTER · February 9, 2019 9:16AM

Attached are the coins

I know they are dark but it’s the best I can do for now

CommemKing · February 9, 2019 9:17AM

Fake

PTVETTER · February 9, 2019 9:20AM

Ouch
They are not mine, but the owner will be disappointed

JBK · February 9, 2019 11:27AM

There would have to be one heck of a backstory for those two rarities to pop up together.

Besides, they don't look quite right and are both darkened.

Raybob15239 · February 9, 2019 11:37AM

Rims don't look right. I say fake. They also look artificially darkened. You can find the same fakes on eBay. Pull one up and compare.

Coin Finder · February 9, 2019 11:40AM

Fake

amwldcoin · February 9, 2019 12:48PM

Call your local coin shop! They love calls about about 43 lincolns!

ldhair · February 9, 2019 1:22PM

Fake. The face is all wrong.

Edthelorax · February 9, 2019 1:23PM

On the 1955's I see that the doubleing on LIBERTY is opposite what it should be. The second, stronger LIBERTY should be to the south, not north. The letters in TRUST should be a little smaller on the right than the left, and the tops of the T's should not be directly in line with each other. On a genuine coin the lapel is doubled.

On the 1943 above the 4 in the date is too high. The letters RIBUS in PLURIBUS are uneven as if drawn with a crayon.

Timbuk3 · February 10, 2019 12:49AM

OMG, ouch !!!

mannie gray · February 10, 2019 1:05AM

Fake as fake can be.

1Mike1 · February 10, 2019 1:33AM

Fake. Whoever owns them should be advised there is a reason they are not in a slab. Too bad because I think this stuff frustrates collectors and causes them to avoid coins.

batumi · February 10, 2019 7:46AM

I would wager the '43 will stick to a magnet while not a good Picture, I would find the 55 'guilty by association with the '43 fake!'

MFeld · February 10, 2019 7:51AM

@batumi said:
I would wager the '43 will stick to a magnet while not a good Picture, I would find the 55 'guilty by association with the '43 fake!'

Why would you bet that the 1943 would stick to a magnet?

batumi · February 10, 2019 10:35AM

MFeld: With the photos OP provided which he admits are not too good, a magnet wou the first in hand test I would take before weighing it. There are huge numbers of copper plated steel cents. I paid a quarter for an attractive one years ago. A small magnet was included on it.

MFeld · February 10, 2019 10:41AM

@batumi said:
MFeld: With the photos OP provided which he admits are not too good, a magnet wou the first in hand test I would take before weighing it. There are huge numbers of copper plated steel cents. I paid a quarter for an attractive one years ago. A small magnet was included on it.

Thank you and I understand that. However, if the coin is a fabrication, rather than a genuine plated steel can’t, you will get a different result. Is the magnet test truly worthy of a wager?😉

PTVETTER · February 10, 2019 10:46AM

FYI the 1943 does not stick to a magnet.
My frist test!

JBK · February 10, 2019 11:00AM

@PTVETTER said:
FYI the 1943 does not stick to a magnet.
My frist test!

So, a straight up counterfeit...

batumi · February 10, 2019 12:29PM

PTVETTER: I agree with a magnet as a first test as it is easy and a lot of copper plated steel cents exist. Did you get a chance to weigh and or put a caliper on the '43? I realize with the possibility of a huge profit, there are likely some dangerous fakes made from fake dies.

1Mike1 · February 10, 2019 6:52PM

See the nose and the bow tie, top of the head, all around quality of the strike etc.

DIMEMAN · February 10, 2019 7:04PM

Ole Abe looks like he is mad on the 43. I've never seen a fake so bad!

CaptHenway · February 10, 2019 7:04PM

Fakes

Edthelorax · February 10, 2019 7:33PM

Are we sure that this isn't the missing "After Assassination" pattern piece of '43?

jmlanzaf · February 10, 2019 7:49PM

@MFeld said:

@batumi said:
MFeld: With the photos OP provided which he admits are not too good, a magnet wou the first in hand test I would take before weighing it. There are huge numbers of copper plated steel cents. I paid a quarter for an attractive one years ago. A small magnet was included on it.

Thank you and I understand that. However, if the coin is a fabrication, rather than a genuine plated steel can’t, you will get a different result. Is the magnet test truly worthy of a wager?😉

+1

Based on the Lincoln profile, those look like fabrications from the same source. The 43 copper is, in fact, probably struck in copper.

jmlanzaf · February 10, 2019 7:51PM

@1Mike1 said:
See the nose and the bow tie, top of the head, all around quality of the strike etc.

There it is, a bowtie FANTASTIC!

Soldi · February 10, 2019 9:43PM

As Elaine Benis told Jerry Seinfeld at the Diner climax episode................Fake....Fake....Fake... Fake...

The over lapping die strike on the double die will present itself to the right on the struck planchet. AS in on top of and to the right. Just like a Bar Cent U then S then A .......U topped by S, topped by A. not to mention the reverse die chip.
So, the 1955 will be on top of and to the right of a dbl die cent.

The "3s" are always the "red herring" give away on the copper 43's

sniocsu · February 10, 2019 9:44PM

Very fake

MFeld · February 11, 2019 4:12AM

@Soldi said:
As Elaine Benis told Jerry Seinfeld at the Diner climax episode................Fake....Fake....Fake... Fake...

The over lapping die strike on the double die will present itself to the right on the struck planchet. AS in on top of and to the right. Just like a Bar Cent U then S then A .......U topped by S, topped by A. not to mention the reverse die chip.
So, the 1955 will be on top of and to the right of a dbl die cent.

The "3s" are always the "red herring" give away on the copper 43's

How so on the “3s”? I’ve seen quite a few copies where the “3” looked correct.

Treashunt · February 11, 2019 4:50AM

Drive someone crazy, spend them

ricko · February 11, 2019 8:25AM

Too bad... I am sure the owner believed he/she had treasure.....And the owner may not believe they are fake... I have run into that several times in the past. Cheers, RickO

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