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Which U.S. coin series are dead or virtually dead?

cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭✭

Which are hard to move even at or near published wholesale prices?

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  • ColonialcoinColonialcoin Posts: 738 ✭✭✭✭

    Most Lincoln cents in VF or lower condition.

  • TiborTibor Posts: 3,691 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Per the forum, I would have to say 2 cent pieces, 3 cent silver or nickel,
    Shield nickels, Barber dimes. Rarely are these series discussed unless
    I missed them in the "Hansen" thread.

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 1, 2019 11:48PM

    @MrEureka said:
    If a coin can’t be sold near published prices, that doesn’t mean it’s dead. It just means the published price is wrong.

    True, but I think it is a decent metric to work with. If the prices are falling so quickly that the guides (e.g. CDN) cannot keep up with the changes, then that is not a sign of a healthy series. Perhaps I should have phrased it as,"which series are in decline?"

  • ACopACop Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The circulated proof market is dead.

  • abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Worn two and three cent coins.

  • ArizonaRareCoinsArizonaRareCoins Posts: 679 ✭✭✭✭

    Seated proof dimes, quarters and halves, $2 1/2 gold liberty's, 2 cents and 3 cents series.

  • specialistspecialist Posts: 956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ALL Nickels. 3CN< Shield, Libs MS+PR

  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1Mike1 said:
    State quarters? :p

    you beat me to it.\

    dead, dead, dead

    Frank

    BHNC #203

  • VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @specialist said:
    ALL Nickels. 3CN< Shield, Libs MS+PR

    When you say Libs MS+PR do you mean all denominations? Premiums have been down but I didn't realize all the series' were struggling?

  • mustangmanbobmustangmanbob Posts: 1,890 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Some never were alive, like Ike's SBA's, Sac's. Except for a few created oddities, nothing there.

  • EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Dead Presidential dollars.

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  • CurrinCurrin Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭✭✭

    How popular will the new dollars be? Do we really need more?

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  • BustDMsBustDMs Posts: 1,694 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Treashunt said:

    @1Mike1 said:
    State quarters? :p

    you beat me to it.\

    dead, dead, dead

    I don’t know guys, I can still get face for them.

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    A: The year they spend more on their library than their coin collection.



    A numismatist is judged more on the content of their library than the content of their cabinet.
  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,689 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It is all a matter of price. Overpriced coins just sit and sit. Properly priced coins move quickly.

    Many sellers refuse to consider taking a loss on anything and decline to lower prices to a market acceptable level. For them. hope springs eternal.

    All glory is fleeting.
  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,228 ✭✭✭✭✭

    any of the new dollar coins going back to the first sba

  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,414 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @291fifth said:
    It is all a matter of price. Overpriced coins just sit and sit. Properly priced coins move quickly.

    Many sellers refuse to consider taking a loss on anything and decline to lower prices to a market acceptable level. For them. hope springs eternal.

    Sounds like people who are trying unsuccessfully to sell a house in a strong market but claim that "no one is buying".

    No one is buying at their price.

  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,601 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2, 2019 8:52AM

    1950's up unless they are 67's up


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  • ColonialcoinColonialcoin Posts: 738 ✭✭✭✭

    @topstuf said:

    @Colonialcoin said:
    Most Lincoln cents in VF or lower condition.

    I like my .. ONE ... Lincoln Cent. :D

    I said “most” Lincoln’s. Yours is a keeper!

  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,731 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @EagleEye said:
    Dead Presidential dollars.

    Wholesale price on Ikes is up to $2.50 for the common dates.

    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
  • BillDugan1959BillDugan1959 Posts: 3,821 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Currin said:
    How popular will the new dollars be? Do we really need more?

    As long as they spend, that's good enough.

    I've bought several rolls of Sequoias and a roll of Jim Thorpes for $32.95 per 25 coins recently.

    If I have to spend a roll of them for $25 someday, the greater Universe will still be in balance.

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,837 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What would the response be if this question was asked a 100 years ago? Morgan dollars, trade dollars, and most gold coins would be at the top of most collector's lists.

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  • jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,779 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Buffalo nickels circ and unc, Seated Liberty dimes in circ, barber dimes in circ, Late date walkers in UNC, Lincolns in circ, incl the 14-d you showed. Nice original coin, but I guarantee If you start that at .99 on ebay, it will not reach current greysheet bid.

    commems of lower quality unc, dead as h. most of these bring 60-70% of gsb.

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,689 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBK said:

    @291fifth said:
    It is all a matter of price. Overpriced coins just sit and sit. Properly priced coins move quickly.

    Many sellers refuse to consider taking a loss on anything and decline to lower prices to a market acceptable level. For them. hope springs eternal.

    Sounds like people who are trying unsuccessfully to sell a house in a strong market but claim that "no one is buying".

    No one is buying at their price.

    In regard to houses, I am getting the impression that is what is happening in my neighborhood right now. The area has been a hotbed of new construction where older smaller homes once stood. Until a few months ago the new builds seemed to sell quickly ... but not now. Since the end of summer the market seems to have slowed with the homes now just sitting unsold. Since I am in the Detroit area this may relate directly to the uncertainty many auto company employees have about the future of their jobs.

    All glory is fleeting.
  • BillDugan1959BillDugan1959 Posts: 3,821 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Higher interest rates have a stifling effect on many things.

  • CCGGGCCGGG Posts: 1,267 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2, 2019 6:08PM

    @1Mike1 said:
    State quarters? :p

    That's for sure. Last year I was running out of space in my safe so I "purged" well over 5000 coins. My 100 rolls of Statehood quarters (P&D's) was the first to go. I did keep a few rolls that looked like they may have some value and I'm not sure why I really did that with so little value. That along with a bunch of rolls of modern rolls of nickels and I'd estimate I dump more than 5000 coins back into circulation. After 50 years of coin collecting, you'd think I should know better than to collect all that "crap".

  • Raybob15239Raybob15239 Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭

    @mustangmanbob said:
    Some never were alive, like Ike's SBA's, Sac's. Except for a few created oddities, nothing there.

    I like Ikes. Not the most attractive coin, but I still have a set. I am starting both of my boys (9YO & 8YO) on Ike sets for fun. I bought a raw Unc set back in the 80s or 90s (in a Dansco album) and have been slowly replacing them with PCGS slabbed MS64s and up. Still have a handful to go. The old raw ones are now in Coinworld slabs and will go to my sons. I also have an ungraded set of SBAs, just for the hell of it. Sacs, however, I never developed an interest in...

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  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You guys saying Circ Barber Dimes are dead are wrong. Wish I could buy a set or 2 to offer! Especially F-AU!

  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You guys saying Circ Barber Dimes are dead are wrong. Wish I could buy a set or 2 to offer! Especially F-AU!

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would not say any are dead.... there are collectors that are actively pursuing all types of coins... To them, the series is very much alive.. Cheers, RickO

  • ColonialcoinColonialcoin Posts: 738 ✭✭✭✭

    @amwldcoin said:
    You guys saying Circ Barber Dimes are dead are wrong. Wish I could buy a set or 2 to offer! Especially F-AU!

    Agree!! You have two groups that want Barbers. The people that want the collector grade coins and the people that want the coins for their silver content.

  • OnlyGoldIsMoneyOnlyGoldIsMoney Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Gazes said:

    @ArizonaRareCoins said:
    Seated proof dimes, quarters and halves, $2 1/2 gold liberty's, 2 cents and 3 cents series.

    I can not agree with including quarter eagle liberty gold. My Kentucky Collection sold last year on DWN's site entirely in a day (included many five figure coins). Many liberty quarter eagles have gone for record prices in the last year (an 1881 PCGS 63+ CAC went for $45,600, a PCGS 1876-S 63 CAC went for $21,738 (previous high was $8,225), etc). Doug Winter who sells many of these has said in the last couple years he has seen a strong surge in collectors building liberty quarter eagle collection. In fact, finding these coins in the condition I am looking for has become so difficult that I have branched out into other areas to collect.

    Gazes, your Kentucky Collection brought out a score of avid Liberty $2.50 collectors ready to pull the trigger. I was lucky to land my first Condition Census coin.

  • TiborTibor Posts: 3,691 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I stand by my statement, these series may be collected, but when was the last time
    anybody posted a " GTG " or " look at what I bought recently ".

  • ColonialcoinColonialcoin Posts: 738 ✭✭✭✭

    @1peter1223 said:

    Can you imagine an "investor/collector " buying , hoarding dozens and dozens of MS65 20C pieces back in late 80's early 90's , paying about $3,000-$3500 each and having them worth about $1,800 today ?

    No true collector in their right mind would invest and hoard coins, especially in a short series like the 20 cent pieces. It is a different mentality which is a recipe for disaster.

  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1Mike1 said:
    State quarters? :p

    Were they ever alive???

  • dogwooddogwood Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭✭

    No single series is dead.
    Today’s retail pricing is dead.

    We're all born MS70. I'm about a Fine 15 right now.
  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Colonialcoin said:

    @1peter1223 said:

    Can you imagine an "investor/collector " buying , hoarding dozens and dozens of MS65 20C pieces back in late 80's early 90's , paying about $3,000-$3500 each and having them worth about $1,800 today ?

    No true collector in their right mind would invest and hoard coins, especially in a short series like the 20 cent pieces. It is a different mentality which is a recipe for disaster.

    Those 65s are probably 66s or 67s today.

  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 10,086 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2, 2019 7:47PM

    @ricko said:
    I would not say any are dead.... there are collectors that are actively pursuing all types of coins... To them, the series is very much alive.. Cheers, RickO

    Right you are, at least how it pertains to my interests. Any "common", "dead" coinage is a welcome sight for me as long at they are error/fido related.

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  • SoldiSoldi Posts: 2,177 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1peter1223 said:

    @ArizonaRareCoins said:
    Seated proof dimes, quarters and halves, $2 1/2 gold liberty's, 2 cents and 3 cents series.

    From what i have heard and seen almost all generic type coins in MS or PR are tough to sell unless generously discounted . Forgot to mention the barber series ( common dates of course ) . That stuff in MS/PF is not selling .

    Reason .......... Look at the pop reports .Look at what is available on ebay , dealer sites . That stuff WAS NEVER rare to begin with .

    IMO i could easily see "some" of that stuff lose 1/3 to 1/2 its value in the next few years .

    Evidence is that you can buy a MS65 20C piece cheaper today than 25 ( twenty five ) years ago .

    Can you imagine an "investor/collector " buying , hoarding dozens and dozens of MS65 20C pieces back in late 80's early 90's , paying about $3,000-$3500 each and having them worth about $1,800 today ?

    That happened to every series in the late 1980s TPG graded ones that is. Then they got resubmitted which is what I believe I would do with them. If I remember right many coins were undergraded. Many dealers were upset over what constituted an MS65. This meaning the grades were too tight.

  • I'd say 3 cent pieces, shield nickels, two cent pieces, and classic commemoratives.

  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Trimes. Does anyone need more than one for the 7070? Does anyone have more than one?

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