So, who is eyeing what in the upcoming NYINC auctions.

bidask · December 23, 2018 2:37PM

I’m looking at some coins from the Morris Collection of Ancients . A bit of a stretch for me but we will see.....!

scubafuel · December 23, 2018 4:29PM

There is a beautiful and rare 1847 2E from CAR in the sale. It may be out of my price range though.

https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/lots/view/3-FM87M

TwoKopeiki · December 23, 2018 5:30PM

You know... a little bit of this... a little bit of that...

bidask · December 23, 2018 5:55PM

@TwoKopeiki said:
You know... a little bit of this... a little bit of that...

Any nice 8 reales?

TwoKopeiki · December 23, 2018 8:40PM

@bidask said:

@TwoKopeiki said:
You know... a little bit of this... a little bit of that...

Any nice 8 reales?

I'll let you know after the auctions are over

bidask · December 23, 2018 9:18PM

@TwoKopeiki said:

@bidask said:

@TwoKopeiki said:
You know... a little bit of this... a little bit of that...

Any nice 8 reales?

I'll let you know after the auctions are over

Bob13 · December 24, 2018 9:51AM

This seems like a loaded question.... the mind games this thread could spawn.

But yeah, I got a couple on my radar!

MrEureka · December 24, 2018 11:26AM

@scubafuel said:
There is a beautiful and rare 1847 2E from CAR in the sale. It may be out of my price range though.

https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/lots/view/3-FM87M

Great coin! A rarity in all grades, and ted for finest known. I have the other one, so I won't be a strong bidder. You should get it!!!

SmEagle1795 · December 24, 2018 12:31PM

The estimates on the Morris collection are all extremely low relative to market value. I suspect many will end up 2-4x their stated estimates. I've viewed most of them - feel free to send me a PM if you have a question on any specific lots.

Abuelo · December 24, 2018 12:48PM

@scubafuel said:
There is a beautiful and rare 1847 2E from CAR in the sale. It may be out of my price range though.

https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/lots/view/3-FM87M

Looking into this one too. But still thinking about it. It is a lot of money.

Bob13 · December 29, 2018 4:17PM

A bit far afield from what I am collecting but this caught my eye.

https://www.sixbid.com/browse.html?auction=5556&category=180797&lot=4644715

7Jaguars · December 29, 2018 5:21PM

You do know that this Wyon design was used by Patina/INA and sold a bunch of iterations in the Spink 2001 Patina Sale. I got this in gold for about 550 pounds - not the original equally nice IMO. The silvers come up every so often. This was a private pattern originally anyway.....

Bob13 · December 30, 2018 9:59AM

@7Jaguars - I did not know that - thanks for the info. I will try to track down a silver replica.

But, that original has wonderful patina!

7Jaguars · December 30, 2018 10:53AM

Well, let's see: 40,000 USD vs. ~90. I think a bit of toning could be found for a percentage of that. I too used to love this design -and it was AFFORDABLE at one time. That is gone but substitutes are fairly nice.

TwoKopeiki · December 30, 2018 4:15PM

I'm deciding if I want to get a few nice coins that will be a start of a new collection, or one amazing coin to have as a type...

Abuelo · December 30, 2018 4:26PM

@TwoKopeiki said:
I'm deciding if I want to get a few nice coins that will be a start of a new collection, or one amazing coin to have as a type...

Always one amazing...

bidask · December 30, 2018 4:34PM

@TwoKopeiki said:
I'm deciding if I want to get a few nice coins that will be a start of a new collection, or one amazing coin to have as a type...

What new collection are you considering?

TwoKopeiki · December 30, 2018 5:46PM

@bidask said:

@TwoKopeiki said:
I'm deciding if I want to get a few nice coins that will be a start of a new collection, or one amazing coin to have as a type...

What new collection are you considering?

Deciding between extending my 8 Reales collection into early Republic Hooknecks (most likely starting with Durango) or Scottish Ryals of Mary.

TwoKopeiki · December 30, 2018 5:47PM

@Abuelo said:

@TwoKopeiki said:
I'm deciding if I want to get a few nice coins that will be a start of a new collection, or one amazing coin to have as a type...

Always one amazing...

That's what I'm leaning towards, as well. We'll see how the bidding goes.

pruebas · December 30, 2018 8:15PM

@TwoKopeiki said:

@bidask said:

@TwoKopeiki said:
I'm deciding if I want to get a few nice coins that will be a start of a new collection, or one amazing coin to have as a type...

What new collection are you considering?

Deciding between extending my 8 Reales collection into early Republic Hooknecks (most likely starting with Durango) or Scottish Ryals of Mary.

Hooknecks!

Abuelo · December 30, 2018 8:37PM

There are few Durangos, even nice ones. There is also a very high grade Mexico City from 1824, perhaps the top pop. So there you have it @TwoKopeiki

TwoKopeiki · December 31, 2018 1:40AM

@Abuelo said:
There are few Durangos, even nice ones. There is also a very high grade Mexico City from 1824, perhaps the top pop. So there you have it @TwoKopeiki

There sure are.

Boosibri · December 31, 2018 1:14PM

Any guesses on what that MS64 Hookneck will go for?

TwoKopeiki · December 31, 2018 2:45PM

@Boosibri said:
Any guesses on what that MS64 Hookneck will go for?

Depends on how many people will be chasing it after it breaks 10K.

Boosibri · December 31, 2018 2:53PM

@TwoKopeiki said:

@Boosibri said:
Any guesses on what that MS64 Hookneck will go for?

I didn’t see much nice Latin American in the sale so may attract decent interest.

doppeltaler · December 31, 2018 6:24PM

Tracking couple of multiple thalers i know going to be out of my range. Still fun to track and maybe even to bid

Abuelo · December 31, 2018 6:59PM

@Boosibri said:

@TwoKopeiki said:

@Boosibri said:
Any guesses on what that MS64 Hookneck will go for?

I didn’t see much nice Latin American in the sale so may attract decent interest.

Well, an MS65 from Durango (yes I know is a complete different animal) sold for 26K last year (2017). So for sure I think this will pass the 10K. Sadly, not for me...

savitale · January 2, 2019 8:37AM

Is anyone going to lot viewing on Sunday? I’ve never been to the NYINC auctions before. I’m planning to view the Ancient Greek coins from Heritage and CNG on Sunday and then bid from home Monday and Tuesday. If anyone is interested in doing a meetup let me know.

bidask · January 7, 2019 8:09PM

Did you just see what the NetherlAnds East Indies Japanese occupation coins went for ?

Woweee ! I think they were made of aluminum!!

It’s lots 34301, 02, and 03.

Went for $9600/ 28,800 and 9,600 respectively!

Boosibri · January 7, 2019 8:20PM

@Abuelo have a link to the auction with the MS65 Durango?

1960NYGiants · January 7, 2019 9:01PM

Bid on one lot and got it: Lot 30177 - Copper Co. of Upper Canada copper Proof Restrike 1/2 Penny 1794 (1894) PR65 Brown NGC from the Doug Robbins collection

pruebas · January 7, 2019 9:46PM

@1960NYGiants said:
Bid on one lot and got it: Lot 30177 - Copper Co. of Upper Canada copper Proof Restrike 1/2 Penny 1794 (1894) PR65 Brown NGC from the Doug Robbins collection

@1960NYGiants those restrikes went VERY cheap! Congrats on the win. I had the silver restrike from the HA auction 2 years ago and it was much more expensive then.

Tonight I ended up winning the original for my max bid last April when they originally sold. (I didn’t win it last time because someone outbid me at $5000, but this time my $4800 bid took it home.)

Any scuttlebut on why they (some) came back to auction so quickly?

Abuelo · January 7, 2019 9:46PM

@Boosibri said:
@Abuelo have a link to the auction with the MS65 Durango?

All yours @Boosibri
https://coins.ha.com/itm/mexico/world-coins/mexico-republic-hookneck-8-reales-1824-do-rl-ms65-ngc-/a/3051-32289.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515

Abuelo · January 7, 2019 9:47PM

So far, did terrible at Heritage... 0/2. I was underbid on both.

OnlyGoldIsMoney · January 7, 2019 10:54PM

I added one of the more modest coins from the Morris Collection that fit in my budget.

TwoKopeiki · January 8, 2019 5:48AM

Was going to go after that Lissner 1815 8 Reales in NGC64 but the feedback from folks previewing it was less than stellar. And for that price it had to be a "wow" coin or you're just paying for the pedigree or registry points.

Boosibri · January 8, 2019 5:55AM

@TwoKopeiki said:
Was going to go after that Lissner 1815 8 Reales in NGC64 but the feedback from folks previewing it was less than stellar. And for that price it had to be a "wow" coin or you're just paying for the pedigree or registry points.

I need a Mexico Ferdinand VII 8R in high grade but I didn't even end up tracking that lot given the washed out surfaces and white color.

I was glad to see the 1742-Mo 4E MS62 sell for $12k. It is the only other 62 graded for the type other than the one I posted in another thread and from those who have seen it I hear the coin at auction was not very original nor impressive.

TwoKopeiki · January 8, 2019 8:32AM

@Boosibri said:

@TwoKopeiki said:
Was going to go after that Lissner 1815 8 Reales in NGC64 but the feedback from folks previewing it was less than stellar. And for that price it had to be a "wow" coin or you're just paying for the pedigree or registry points.

I need a Mexico Ferdinand VII 8R in high grade but I didn't even end up tracking that lot given the washed out surfaces and white color.

It had quite a bit of luster and I don't believe anyone would call it washed-out after seeing it in-hand. The color is a different story. It wasn't for me, or you, but there's still a reason it hammered at over $3K with BP.

EVillageProwler · January 8, 2019 9:27AM

@TwoKopeiki said:

@Boosibri said:

@TwoKopeiki said:
Was going to go after that Lissner 1815 8 Reales in NGC64 but the feedback from folks previewing it was less than stellar. And for that price it had to be a "wow" coin or you're just paying for the pedigree or registry points.

I need a Mexico Ferdinand VII 8R in high grade but I didn't even end up tracking that lot given the washed out surfaces and white color.

It had quite a bit of luster and I don't believe anyone would call it washed-out after seeing it in-hand. The color is a different story. It wasn't for me, or you, but there's still a reason it hammered at over $3K with BP.

It reminded me of a CC-mint Morgan in P63. (Not asserting that the NGC grade is too loose, since we are not comparing same apples.)

1960NYGiants · January 8, 2019 8:08PM

@pruebas said:

@1960NYGiants said:
Bid on one lot and got it: Lot 30177 - Copper Co. of Upper Canada copper Proof Restrike 1/2 Penny 1794 (1894) PR65 Brown NGC from the Doug Robbins collection

@1960NYGiants those restrikes went VERY cheap! Congrats on the win. I had the silver restrike from the HA auction 2 years ago and it was much more expensive then.

Tonight I ended up winning the original for my max bid last April when they originally sold. (I didn’t win it last time because someone outbid me at $5000, but this time my $4800 bid took it home.)

Any scuttlebut on why they (some) came back to auction so quickly?

@pruebas - congrats. I don't officially know why they came so quick. I wasn't in a financial position to purchase this last April - very happy to get it as same price this year. Fills a huge hole in the type set of tokens.

TwoKopeiki · December 2, 2024 11:35AM

@Boosibri said:

@TwoKopeiki said:
Was going to go after that Lissner 1815 8 Reales in NGC64 but the feedback from folks previewing it was less than stellar. And for that price it had to be a "wow" coin or you're just paying for the pedigree or registry points.

I need a Mexico Ferdinand VII 8R in high grade but I didn't even end up tracking that lot given the washed out surfaces and white color.

I was glad to see the 1742-Mo 4E MS62 sell for $12k. It is the only other 62 graded for the type other than the one I posted in another thread and from those who have seen it I hear the coin at auction was not very original nor impressive.

Hey, seems like "The Tyrant" prioritizes the grade and pedigree over other qualities you and I find important: https://www.thetyrantcollection.com/tyrants-of-lake-texcoco/?avia-element-paging=2

TwoKopeiki · December 2, 2024 11:36AM

There's also the familiar 1808 in P64+ in that set now.

Boosibri · December 2, 2024 3:30PM

@TwoKopeiki said:
There's also the familiar 1808 in P64+ in that set now.

Yes, familiar coin for sure

Rexford · December 2, 2024 6:00PM

This will be in the Stack’s sale. I won’t be going after it but I’m very interested to see what it goes for in the current market. There hasn’t been a sale of a certified example in this quality.

coinkat · December 2, 2024 6:08PM

That has to be one of the best Commonwealth Crowns I have seen… of course excluding the Cromwell

worldcoinguy · December 2, 2024 8:03PM

@Rexford said:

This will be in the Stack’s sale. I won’t be going after it but I’m very interested to see what it goes for in the current market. There hasn’t been a sale of a certified example in this quality.

I only see French lots listed so far in the Stacks NYINC auction. Is this inside information?

Exbrit · December 3, 2024 5:32AM

@7Jaguars said:
You do know that this Wyon design was used by Patina/INA and sold a bunch of iterations in the Spink 2001 Patina Sale. I got this in gold for about 550 pounds - not the original equally nice IMO. The silvers come up every so often. This was a private pattern originally anyway.....

I haven’t seen this Wyon or this design before. Nice design. A collection just focusing on all of the Wyons would be an interesting collection.

Rexford · December 3, 2024 12:20PM

@worldcoinguy said:

@Rexford said:

This will be in the Stack’s sale. I won’t be going after it but I’m very interested to see what it goes for in the current market. There hasn’t been a sale of a certified example in this quality.

I only see French lots listed so far in the Stacks NYINC auction. Is this inside information?

Yep, just a sneak peek

coinkat · December 3, 2024 12:42PM

@Rexford

Any idea when that was graded?

Rexford · December 3, 2024 12:54PM

@coinkat said:
@Rexford

Any idea when that was graded?

I can’t share more details, sorry.

coinkat · December 3, 2024 5:57PM

I understand… I suspect it will do well.

So, who is eyeing what in the upcoming NYINC auctions.

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