Do the 2000 and later US "golden" dollars actually circulate anywhere in the US?
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Are there cities where transit fares are regularly paid with these coins? Are they ever used in slot machines?
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On the highway rest stops here in NC they are used in the vending machines.
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My understanding is that U.S. dollar coins circulate heavily in Panama where the coins are legal tender.
I know it isn't the U.S., but I think that is where the vast majority of the circulation is.
Ecuador too.
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Traded one for an iced tea at Mickey D's, plus a dime for tax.
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I used to spend a few. I've got a few not worth keeping, so perhaps I'll start leaving them as tips.
My strategy is about collecting what I intend to keep, not investing in what I plan to sell.
Vending. Takes a five and returns golden dollars. Some SUsiEs in the mix too! Thought I found a Wounded Eagle but it was just a scratch.
I try and circulate them. So spending them all the time on small purchases, but have only once received one in change.
Ecuador loves them.
I use them at some toll booths where I don't have a toll pass. They may still exist, but I haven't seen any coin operated slot machines in years and I go to a lot of casinos.
I use them in parking meters in Denver, and to pay the $4 short term parking fee at the airport.
So much so that counterfeits are being made in Colombia and sold into Ecuador.
National Oilwell in Texas, vending machines all give back in change. Pain in the butt getting rid of. Half the cashiers don't even know what they are.
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My bank saves them for me and about half of them are noticeably circulated. Some are NCLT’s. In recent months have gotten a 1981-S Susie and a JFK Prezzie.
Metro in Washington D.C. big user.
Laundromats here in flyover country big users too.
Some usage in self-checkout at grocery stores here. The machines accept them, I've never heard of them being paid back out.
If there were no one dollar bills/banknotes, most people could make the switch pretty easy.
I too have gotten several of the NCLT Prezzies in change...
Newer car washes here take them. Seldom seen in everyday trade.
Had a couple hundred Washington dollars that were searched for the missing motto (none found)
Used then at the bottled water place until the clerk let me know that the owner didn't want them.
LIRR ticket machines
Last time we were in Baltimore I bought tickets for the lite rail line.
I thought that if they are legal tender that businesses had to accept them except in huge quantities.
I have been using them with somewhat regularity, especially in vending. I used to play the stamp machine at the local post office like an one arm bandit to try and get one of those mules.
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Don't know if that is true or not. I didn't want to get the water guy steamed.
The only place I ever saw them used was a soda machine at a big company in Newark, NJ. If you used a $5 bill in the bill accepter you'd get them as change.
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The vending machines at my work in SLC, UT spit them out as change.
I may still try to paint some of those electrical box punch-outs gold and see if I can pass a few...
As I mentioned in the Innobuck thread, I've probably received more brassbucks in change than Kennedy's in the past 20 years. That means, other than the post office (which I raided in 2000), I think I've received 7 or 8 brassbucks. That's 4 a decade.
On the other hand, I've put a couple hundred into circulation. Seems a bit lopsided...
I think the light rail ticket machines in San Jose gives them up for change still, haven't been on it in a while
I have never used or received one in change.....anywhere......
I know someone who works in a nursing home where the food vending machine for employees accepts and dispenses dollars. He brings these to me and I have filled some of the holes in my Sac and Presidential folders.
Some stand alone bagging ice machines.
Some places are completely cashless now. No paper or coins accepted. The short version is that it costs about 15% to handle cash (slower line, having to count, store, pay for an armored car, maintain change, etc.) plus the safety aspect (no money to steal or rob) for some places of business.
As to having to accept the money, the ruling is that they do NOT have to accept the money, if the policy is stated up front, before you purchase. Since they will not accept cash, and you have not purchased, there is no "debt" therefore, no obligation to accept cash.
Also, as @Coinstartled said: Used then at the bottled water place until the clerk let me know that the owner didn't want them.
Why would you want to irritate someone to force them to accept, for most all people, an oddball item. How would you feel if stores started using only 1 cent coins for change, and the clerks had to count and recount 78 cents in change. The payment lines would grind to a halt. We have become time sensitive, and people sigh with frustration when a person now pays with a check, or fumbles with they little coin pouch trying to get the exact change, instead of a 4 second swipe.
I was at Sears, getting my free Craftsman tool replacement before they disappear, and the person in front of me was buying something for about $85, and was using just $1 bills. It took 4 counts before they clerk and purchaser agreed on the number of bills in the stack.
The only place I have received them in change is from the machines at the Post Office. I have paid with a few for small purchases.... Get some strange looks and a few comments. Always accepted though...Cheers, RickO
In the NYC subways, the few clerks available dump them in change.
I use them occasionally at 7-11s and grocery stores......they look at me like I have 3 heads.
+1 for metro in DC. I salt bake sales and lemonade stands in DC too
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I don't see anyone them circulating in the St. Louis area, except for Metrolink. I have been trying to get some rolls at the banks.. They tell they don't have any and won't order any. The teller says nobody asked for them so they don't order any. Well, nobody asks for ten or five dollar bills, they just give them out. If the banks would distribute them, people would use them.
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My wife and I run the Round Rock, TX coin show. We typically take in anywhere from 20 - 40 of them at the door (collectors like paying the admission with them) and almost all of them are circulated and brown. They have to be circulating somewhere...
To answer the OP's question, yes. They are used in Connecticut at the Metro-North train stations. You put in a $20 for your train ticket to NYC and get change paid in Sacs.
I don't know of any casinos in the US (Vegas, AC or CT tribal casinos) that still actually pay out in legal tender currency, only receipts.
There are a coin operated slots and video poker machines at a few casinos (California, Freemont, Main Street Station and maybe one more) in Downtown Las Vegas but they seem to be mostly quarter machines and even if they were of the dollar variety they would use $1 tokens not coins
Vending machines have been fit to accept dollar coins, like phone booths and cigarette vending machines.
Many people carry their dollar coins in a little sack tied to their horse saddle.
So many attempts at a popular dollar coin, perhaps the INNOBUCK will be a success, or not. Seems like these coins are set up just to be collected. Look at the Susie-B, that was the biggest push to circulation and failed.
I believe the way inflation has gone, a dollar coin should actually be a five dollar coin.
The San Francisco Bay Area Rapid Transit (BART) ticket machines take US small dollar coins.
I did try to pay someone with three US president dollar coins and he asked me if they were "play money".
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