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Rarcoa premiums on cac $20 generic gold

logger7logger7 Posts: 9,638 ✭✭✭✭✭

BUYING OR SELLING
MS64 MS65
$20 Liberty 1655 / 1725 3775 / 4075
$20 St. Gaudens NM 1360 / 1435 1780 / 1850
$20 St. Gaudens 1360 / 1435 1780 / 1850

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,510 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Does Rarcoa list buy sell prices for non-cac double eagles? I'm guessing they would be considerably lower than their cac prices assuming they even list these prices.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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    BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,790 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Is the influx from Europe done, for the moment, or still going on?

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 9,638 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:
    Does Rarcoa list buy sell prices for non-cac double eagles? I'm guessing they would be considerably lower than their cac prices assuming they even list these prices.

    $20 Liberty 1185 / 1255 1210 / 1260 1225 / 1295 1365 / 1420 2300 / 2500 Call
    $20 High Relief 13750 / - 14100 / 16600 18000 / - 20300 / 23500 34500 / 39500 - / -
    $20 St. Gaudens NM 1205 / - 1210 / 1260 1230 / 1280 1245 / 1300 1465 / 1520 1940 / 2020
    $20 St. Gaudens 1190 / 1255 1190 / 1260 1210 / 1280 1245 / 1300 1430 / 1520

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,510 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @logger7 said:

    @PerryHall said:
    Does Rarcoa list buy sell prices for non-cac double eagles? I'm guessing they would be considerably lower than their cac prices assuming they even list these prices.

    $20 Liberty 1185 / 1255 1210 / 1260 1225 / 1295 1365 / 1420 2300 / 2500 Call
    $20 High Relief 13750 / - 14100 / 16600 18000 / - 20300 / 23500 34500 / 39500 - / -
    $20 St. Gaudens NM 1205 / - 1210 / 1260 1230 / 1280 1245 / 1300 1465 / 1520 1940 / 2020
    $20 St. Gaudens 1190 / 1255 1190 / 1260 1210 / 1280 1245 / 1300 1430 / 1520

    Wow! Many of their buy prices are well below melt.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good time to hold on to your gold.... or get some at melt... ;) Cheers, RickO

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    SethChandlerSethChandler Posts: 1,721 ✭✭✭✭

    Seems like a fair spread to me.

    Hard to find better PCGS CAC Gold.

    Collecting since 1976.
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    Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting, thanks for sharing !!! :)

    Timbuk3
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,012 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Opportunities are endless. Cash flow, on the other hand , has its limitations. Grrrrr

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    philographerphilographer Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Though they are “generic” and I’m not supposed to love them, I still do. ❤️

    He who knows he has enough is rich.

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    ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭✭✭

    +1 love generic any day of the week <3 Thanks for sharing Mr. Logger :)

    @philographer said:
    Though they are “generic” and I’m not supposed to love them, I still do. ❤️

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,510 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I can't find RARCOA's buy/sell prices for US gold. It's not shown on their web site. Is this information only given to dealers? Where can I find it?

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 9,638 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Email them, or I could send it to you. Basically a significant amount below Greysheet.

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,510 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @logger7 said:
    Email them, or I could send it to you. Basically a significant amount below Greysheet.

    Do they have it somewhere on line? In a rapidly changing market it's inconvenient to have to ask them for this information every time you need it.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

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    PQueuePQueue Posts: 901 ✭✭✭

    Skeptical, tgtb true.

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    joebb21joebb21 Posts: 4,806 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:

    @logger7 said:
    Email them, or I could send it to you. Basically a significant amount below Greysheet.

    Do they have it somewhere on line? In a rapidly changing market it's inconvenient to have to ask them for this information every time you need it.

    They send it out as a daily email.
    So does heritage-

    For the record- its very easy to post buy and sell's But try buying/ or selling quantity and see what the real market is for many generics.

    Try ordering 50 cac saints in ms65 and see how many are "in stock"

    may the fonz be with you...always...
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    Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 9,735 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 24, 2018 7:53AM

    Have been buying slabbed gold (sight seen) close to melt - slabbed USGTC, AGB, AGE, MWG. Just nice looking coins close to melt will not pay more for stickered than about $20.

    Sooner or later some event will propel gold and silver way up.

    Investor
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,510 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @joebb21 said:

    @PerryHall said:

    @logger7 said:
    Email them, or I could send it to you. Basically a significant amount below Greysheet.

    Do they have it somewhere on line? In a rapidly changing market it's inconvenient to have to ask them for this information every time you need it.

    They send it out as a daily email.
    So does heritage-

    For the record- its very easy to post buy and sell's But try buying/ or selling quantity and see what the real market is for many generics.

    Try ordering 50 cac saints in ms65 and see how many are "in stock"

    Do you have to prove that you are a coin dealer to get on their mailing list?

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

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    GreeniejrGreeniejr Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭

    @PerryHall I know for Heritage you need to be a dealer. I am not sure what RARCOA or Stack's policy is. For Aurum Trading it is fairly flexible because they only publish a bid. If you want a definitive answer you probably should reach out to any of them. The problem is that market makers tend to not want to deal with groups of 1 or 2 coins. They also assume an easy wholesale transaction and the rules that are generally followed in them.

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,510 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks everyone. Anyone here ever compare Heritage's buy/sell prices with RARCOA's buy/sell prices? How close they are? Is one consistently higher than the other?

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 9,638 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The better dates of course are another matter; on the $20s the common dates are easy to find, the better or rare dates that are much tougher in decent condition bring good money in the marketplace.

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    bestdaybestday Posts: 4,271 ✭✭✭✭

    $1800 for a CAC Saint 65 ,, wow

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    joebb21joebb21 Posts: 4,806 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:
    Thanks everyone. Anyone here ever compare Heritage's buy/sell prices with RARCOA's buy/sell prices? How close they are? Is one consistently higher than the other?

    They are usually within $10-$20 depending on who has what order (or stock)

    may the fonz be with you...always...
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    Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 9,735 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 27, 2018 4:33PM

    For slabbed DE may have interest in I refer to CDN. I probably wb a buyer as high as bid plus 5 pct (sight seen). It takes substantial pocket to establish presence in that market.

    Investor
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    logger7logger7 Posts: 9,638 ✭✭✭✭✭

    HA will pay a lot more for the better dates than Rarcao, and Northeast often will pay more than HA depending on the quality of the coin.

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    skier07skier07 Posts: 4,731 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Google “Stacks Bowers gold fax” to get their latest their daily sheet. No luck with Rarcao trying to get their daily sheet.

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    savitalesavitale Posts: 1,410 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow. The CAC premium is a lot higher for some generic gold than I would have thought. For MS65 $20 Liberties, the sticker alone is worth $1475. For MS64 $20 Saints it’s only worth $60.

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