Bring back the old Anacs small slab?

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logger7
logger7 Posts: 9,859 ✭✭✭✭✭
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I'm surprised with the focus on retro holders, that no one has brought back the minimalist Anacs small white slab? Were there any problems with those?

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  • PerryHall
    PerryHall Posts: 47,752 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @FSF said:' and they would fit in boxes designed to hold flips and 2X2's.
    Yeah, I really liked the old small white ones from the early 90s if that is what you are referring to.

    I liked them too. The width was 2" and they would fit nicely in standard coin boxes designed to hold flips and 2x2"s. They could handle all US coins with the exception of the Pan-Pac $50 gold slugs.

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  • logger7
    logger7 Posts: 9,859 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    My understanding is that the old white and Blue label Anacs slabs have no grade guarantee like the gold ones have.

  • Timbuk3
    Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Yup, I have a bunch of the old ANACS holders. I really like them. Wish they kept it around longer !!! :)

    Timbuk3
  • koynekwest
    koynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I wish they would bring 'em back.

  • ScarsdaleCoin
    ScarsdaleCoin Posts: 5,445 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Loved those days. The nickname for these is soapbox. At the time I had suggested keep the holders just redo the graphics for a more modern look but they wanted to be more like the other tpg’s. Oh well life marches on

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  • JimTyler
    JimTyler Posts: 4,100 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 20, 2018 7:26PM
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    @SeattleSlammer said:

    These early ANA holders are conservatively graded ( mostly) and worth a premium IMO. Back in the day the later ANA were considered loosely graded.

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  • philographer
    philographer Posts: 1,383 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I was thinking the thread title could be: will PCGS ever issue a smaller slab? (Because these huge ones take up sooooo much room)!

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  • astrorat
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    @jtlee321 said:
    Here's a consecutive serial numbered pair of ANA holders I picked up at a show earlier this year. I just couldn't break them up.

    Nice!

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  • BillJones
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    On draw back was that there were limits as to what ANACS could put into them. I don't think that they could slab the $50 gold slugs and the Pan-Pac commemorative $50 gold coins because they were too large.

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  • amwldcoin
    amwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    While I love the small convenient size of the old small holders, the downside is the are so easy to break. Drop one on a concrete floor at a show and you will see what I mean.

    @logger7 said:
    I'm surprised with the focus on retro holders, that no one has brought back the minimalist Anacs small white slab? Were there any problems with those?

  • logger7
    logger7 Posts: 9,859 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    It probably wouldn't be that expensive to duplicate the best features of the old white holders, make the plastic harder, go past the copyrights with a slightly different holder, and give collectors the option at least for a few bucks extra. ICG could do that I would think.

  • Knell
    Knell Posts: 458 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Is this considered ANACS small slab?

    I have a few Morgan$, slabbed and raws. I don't usually collect error coins and/or varieties but wanted to know how to check for VAM-1 designation on this coin. Just a curiosity so any information from Morgan variety expert out there, I would appreciate your input and looking forward to learn from you. Thanks.

  • asheland
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    I also like them!

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  • ChrisH821
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    @BillJones said:
    On draw back was that there were limits as to what ANACS could put into them. I don't think that they could slab the $50 gold slugs and the Pan-Pac commemorative $50 gold coins because they were too large.

    Something tells me anacs isn't certifying many $50 Pan-Pacs anyway. They could have offered a special oversized holder much like the other major TPGS's and kept the nice small holder, seems like it is universally liked.

    Collector, occasional seller

  • PerryHall
    PerryHall Posts: 47,752 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 21, 2018 11:39AM
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    @BillJones said:
    On draw back was that there were limits as to what ANACS could put into them. I don't think that they could slab the $50 gold slugs and the Pan-Pac commemorative $50 gold coins because they were too large.

    Not an issue with the 99.9% of the coin collectors who will never own a Pan-Pac $50 gold slug. There's also a limit as to what PCGS and NGC slabs can house as far as US coins are concerned. They both had to create special oversized slabs for the 5 oz silver ATB series of coins.

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  • U1chicago
    U1chicago Posts: 6,993 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 21, 2018 12:50PM
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    @Knell said:
    Is this considered ANACS small slab?

    I have a few Morgan$, slabbed and raws. I don't usually collect error coins and/or varieties but wanted to know how to check for VAM-1 designation on this coin. Just a curiosity so any information from Morgan variety expert out there, I would appreciate your input and looking forward to learn from you. Thanks.

    Yes that is considered a small Anacs slab.

    To learn about VAMs, start here:
    http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.compute.amazonaws.com/wiki/Home
    (VAM World website)

  • Dave99B
    Dave99B Posts: 8,947 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I own dozens of the original small white ANACS slabs. Mainly SLQs, Barber material, and some off-center Indian Cents. Love the little white 'coffins'. Can't bring myself to cross them over to PCGS plastic.

    ANACS should have NEVER moved to their new holders, which are completely unappealing to me.

    Dave

    Always looking for original, better date VF20-VF35 Barber quarters and halves, and a quality beer.
  • LindeDad
    LindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 21, 2018 2:55PM
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    Is ANACS even the same company when comes to the new holders?
    Edited for typo.

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  • logger7
    logger7 Posts: 9,859 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @LindeDad said:
    Is ANACS even the some company when comes to the new holders?

    If you send in the old Anacs white holders, they will not put them in their gold holders but blue ones, due to ownership issues.

  • LindeDad
    LindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Thought so I remember reading something about a swap of people with another grading firm.

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  • koynekwest
    koynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    ICG is the "new" ANACS. And ANACS is the "new" ICG if I'm not mistaken.

  • amwldcoin
    amwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Isn't it crazy!

    @koynekwest said:
    ICG is the "new" ANACS. And ANACS is the "new" ICG if I'm not mistaken.

  • ChrisH821
    ChrisH821 Posts: 7,147 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Wait, how does the blue holder fit in? I thought it was a transitional thing...

    Collector, occasional seller

  • LindeDad
    LindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Apples and Oranges.........

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  • logger7
    logger7 Posts: 9,859 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @ChrisH821 said:
    Wait, how does the blue holder fit in? I thought it was a transitional thing...

    How will my ANACS-certified coins be reholdered?
    On January 1, 2008 ANACS, under its new ownership, relocated from Austin, Texas to suburban Denver. Coins that were certified by ANACS under previous ownership will be reholdered in ANACS's blue label. Coins that were certified since January 1, 2008 under the new ownership, will be reholdered using ANACS's gold label.
    http://www.anacs.com/contentPages/FAQServices.aspx?AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1

  • PerryHall
    PerryHall Posts: 47,752 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Why would you want to reholder a small ANACS slab?

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  • Raybo
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    Why in the heck did ANACS fall by the wayside?
    ANACS had the best holder EVER (AFAIC), so maybe it happened to do with.....?

  • Raybo
    Raybo Posts: 5,362 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Knell said:
    Is this considered ANACS small slab?

    I have a few Morgan$, slabbed and raws. I don't usually collect error coins and/or varieties but wanted to know how to check for VAM-1 designation on this coin. Just a curiosity so any information from Morgan variety expert out there, I would appreciate your input and looking forward to learn from you. Thanks.

    Slab yes, grading no.

  • Soldi
    Soldi Posts: 2,177 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 23, 2018 5:42AM
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    do you see any scratches on these holders? I think there is a patent on the plastic

  • Cougar1978
    Cougar1978 Posts: 10,067 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    No these don’t fit in current storage boxes.

    Investor
  • bigmarty58
    bigmarty58 Posts: 2,002 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Sometimes trying to keep up with the "Jones" does not work out...

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