Wasn't Jesse James a bank robber? Why was he honored on a medal? What's next? An Al Capone medal?
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“Court records of State of Missouri vs. Frank and Jesse James - Grand Larceny, Daniel Smoote”
“State of Missouri vs. Frank & Jesse James including indictment; capias to Clay & Jackson Counties; sheriff's returns; warrant to any sheriff or marshall of the Criminal Court in Missouri.”
Actually, depending from where you from he is considered a hero.
In Independence MO is where I first heard about it. I made the mistake thinking he was a bad guy.
I was corrected big time.
I was told the banks made loans with people, who put up there homes, land, etc. as collateral.
The banks made loans taking advantage of the people, with unfavorable term.
When the people couldn't pay, banks took over the properties making a huge profit.
One of the things robbed beside money was the contracts people signed. And since there
was only one copy of the contract existing, banks could not prove anything.
People got to keep their homes, land, etc.
@AstroJoe said:
I was told the banks made loans with people, who put up there homes, land, etc. as collateral.
The banks made loans taking advantage of the people, with unfavorable term.
When the people couldn't pay, banks took over the properties making a huge profit.
How's that different from what the banks are doing today? Hopefully, no one here thinks bank robbery is okay.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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@AstroJoe said:
I was told the banks made loans with people, who put up there homes, land, etc. as collateral.
The banks made loans taking advantage of the people, with unfavorable term.
When the people couldn't pay, banks took over the properties making a huge profit.
How's that different from what the banks are doing today? Hopefully, no one here thinks bank robbery is okay.
I see that you’re half kidding. Still, it’s worth noting that the pendulum has swung to the other side. Today, borrowers have the unfair advantage. The law requires no prepayment penalties, which gives borrowers a free option to refinance if rates go down. Government subsidizes borrowers in various ways. And easy bankruptcies offer borrowers the ultimate put option. If Jesse James were alive today, he would probably work in government.
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The medal is strictly for western history buffs... Yes, he was a criminal and a killer.... However, history has plenty of criminals and killers. History should not be purged or rewritten. If we do that, it is no longer history, just watered down fiction. Cheers, RickO
@AstroJoe said:
I was told the banks made loans with people, who put up there homes, land, etc. as collateral.
The banks made loans taking advantage of the people, with unfavorable term.
When the people couldn't pay, banks took over the properties making a huge profit.
How's that different from what the banks are doing today? Hopefully, no one here thinks bank robbery is okay.
Just like computer hacking, Both illegal.
Laws were different back then, they favored the banks, businesses.
This probably explains the token. See the Daviess County, Missouri Historical Society site.
Mistaken identity led to murder during the December 7, 1869, robbery of the Daviess County Savings Association. When Jesse James dropped cashier Capt. John Sheets with a bullet, mistaking Sheets for Gallatin’s Samuel P. Cox, James thought he had avenged the death of Confederate guerrilla leader Wm. “Bloody Bill” Anderson. Records show that only about $100 was taken from the simple one-room brick building located on the southwest corner of the Gallatin square.
James and his gang were thieves and murderers. Nothing more and probably much less. Just because some locals didn't trust banks or were on the short end of loans, does not make anyone a hero...at least not since Robin Hood.
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Wasn't Jesse James a bank robber? Why was he honored on a medal? What's next? An Al Capone medal?
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Its not a coin - it is a medal. I assume it was a souvenir sold at the "historical site" listed on the reverse.
Appears to be a gift token for the following.
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“Court records of State of Missouri vs. Frank and Jesse James - Grand Larceny, Daniel Smoote”
“State of Missouri vs. Frank & Jesse James including indictment; capias to Clay & Jackson Counties; sheriff's returns; warrant to any sheriff or marshall of the Criminal Court in Missouri.”
http://cdm.sos.mo.gov/cdm/ref/collection/jessejames/id/161
A small, cheaply designed medal to honor a robber and murderer....?
Actually, depending from where you from he is considered a hero.
In Independence MO is where I first heard about it. I made the mistake thinking he was a bad guy.
I was corrected big time.
I was told the banks made loans with people, who put up there homes, land, etc. as collateral.
The banks made loans taking advantage of the people, with unfavorable term.
When the people couldn't pay, banks took over the properties making a huge profit.
One of the things robbed beside money was the contracts people signed. And since there
was only one copy of the contract existing, banks could not prove anything.
People got to keep their homes, land, etc.
You could say he was a Robinhood.
Everything is all right!
To Benito where did you acquire it?
He was a product of the Civil War and its aftermath.
How's that different from what the banks are doing today? Hopefully, no one here thinks bank robbery is okay.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
It was guiven to my in 1975 I just founded looking around the old things
Token, probably a tourist item. Nothing to get excited about.
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Not a hero.
I see that you’re half kidding. Still, it’s worth noting that the pendulum has swung to the other side. Today, borrowers have the unfair advantage. The law requires no prepayment penalties, which gives borrowers a free option to refinance if rates go down. Government subsidizes borrowers in various ways. And easy bankruptcies offer borrowers the ultimate put option. If Jesse James were alive today, he would probably work in government.
Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
The medal is strictly for western history buffs... Yes, he was a criminal and a killer.... However, history has plenty of criminals and killers. History should not be purged or rewritten. If we do that, it is no longer history, just watered down fiction. Cheers, RickO
Just like computer hacking, Both illegal.
Laws were different back then, they favored the banks, businesses.
Everything is all right!
This probably explains the token. See the Daviess County, Missouri Historical Society site.
Mistaken identity led to murder during the December 7, 1869, robbery of the Daviess County Savings Association. When Jesse James dropped cashier Capt. John Sheets with a bullet, mistaking Sheets for Gallatin’s Samuel P. Cox, James thought he had avenged the death of Confederate guerrilla leader Wm. “Bloody Bill” Anderson. Records show that only about $100 was taken from the simple one-room brick building located on the southwest corner of the Gallatin square.
James and his gang were thieves and murderers. Nothing more and probably much less. Just because some locals didn't trust banks or were on the short end of loans, does not make anyone a hero...at least not since Robin Hood.
The medallion doesn't say that Jesse James is a hero.
However, he is also a nationally known historical figure.
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