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Does anyone know this seller sellingcoinestates ?

ironmanl63ironmanl63 Posts: 1,974 ✭✭✭✭✭

I asked them a question and they blocked me from bidding on their auctions. If you would like I could copy the messages and post them.

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  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sure, post the messages.
    I presume they are on eBay?

    Frank

    BHNC #203

  • ironmanl63ironmanl63 Posts: 1,974 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am trying to buy a coin I will wait to see if they respond.

  • ironmanl63ironmanl63 Posts: 1,974 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes they are on ebay

  • BillDugan1959BillDugan1959 Posts: 3,821 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Treashunt said:
    no, but..
    as soon as I see 'estates' in the seller's name--

    I RUN!

    100% agree. In fly-by-night auctions and miscellaneous sales, "estate" is one of the biggest red flags you will ever get. Pay attention to it, it is a warning!

  • MICHAELDIXONMICHAELDIXON Posts: 6,596 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 17, 2018 4:33PM

    It will not allow me to access the messages. Myself, like others, RUN whenever I see the word estate.

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  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I bought a great coin from them.

    Very professional.

  • ironmanl63ironmanl63 Posts: 1,974 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They have a great coin I would like to buy. But I guess a question about them covering up cert numbers gets you banned from bidding on their coins.

  • ironmanl63ironmanl63 Posts: 1,974 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ErrorsOnCoins maybe you could send them a message alerting them to this thread.

  • DavideoDavideo Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭✭

    We will not be able to view a message in your account.

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ironmanl63 said:
    @ErrorsOnCoins maybe you could send them a message alerting them to this thread.

    Sorry, nope. Between you and them.

  • ironmanl63ironmanl63 Posts: 1,974 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No prob.

  • GluggoGluggo Posts: 3,566 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 17, 2018 6:12PM

    Whats their ebay name? Or maybe you should not put their name for every one to see. Might be against rules?

    This is what I get when I click on your link;

    " Sorry! There has been an error retrieving your message from the server."

  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    He should be thankful as it would give anyone access to his account!!!!

    @Gluggo said:
    Whats their ebay name? Or maybe you should not put their name for every one to see. Might be against rules?

    This is what I get when I click on your link;

    " Sorry! There has been an error retrieving your message from the server."

  • VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Gluggo said:
    Whats their ebay name? Or maybe you should not put their name for every one to see. Might be against rules?

    This is what I get when I click on your link;

    " Sorry! There has been an error retrieving your message from the server."

    That is their name: https://ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=&_in_kw=1&_ex_kw=&_sacat=0&_udlo=&_udhi=&_ftrt=901&_ftrv=1&_sabdlo=&_sabdhi=&_samilow=&_samihi=&_sadis=15&_stpos=52001-0763&_sargn=-1%26saslc%3D1&_salic=1&_fss=1&_fsradio=%26LH_SpecificSeller%3D1&_saslop=1&_sasl=sellingcoinestates&_sop=1&_dmd=1&_ipg=50&_fosrp=1

  • GluggoGluggo Posts: 3,566 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thank you Vanhalen .

  • Peace_dollar88Peace_dollar88 Posts: 1,228 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I bought a couple of 3rd generation ngc holders from them today.

  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So, I see a couple of things.....

    1) I would NEVER trust any account that seems to sell "estate" sales. I may not avoid them, but I would go into it not trusting them.

    2) Search back on enough threads here and you will find reasons that even forum members will block people...more than a few said they would block for any question as they don't want a possible issue. I think that is pretty stupid, but, hey, people will block others for anything....especially if they want to take advantage of people

    3) Your link goes to YOUR account. If you want us to access it, please post your login ID and password....thank you :)

    Now, go back and read #2 again....there are plenty of sellers here that are great sellers but there is still a good number that will block people for any reason, such as a legit return or even asking a question.

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • ironmanl63ironmanl63 Posts: 1,974 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thank you for the reply’s. Was not trying to give access to my account just wanted to show the messages. I just thought it was rude to block me for asking a question.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    One should not be blocked for asking a question (If question is valid and posed in a civil manner)... so, if that was the case, you are likely better off not dealing with the seller. Imagine if you were dissatisfied with the purchase....Cheers, RickO

  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,750 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree with the above posters. They are rude to block for a simple question(if that's all it was) and don't deserve your business anyway.

    Collector, occasional seller

  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Bochiman said:
    So, I see a couple of things.....

    1) I would NEVER trust any account that seems to sell "estate" sales. I may not avoid them, but I would go into it not trusting them.

    2) Search back on enough threads here and you will find reasons that even forum members will block people...more than a few said they would block for any question as they don't want a possible issue. I think that is pretty stupid, but, hey, people will block others for anything....especially if they want to take advantage of people

    3) Your link goes to YOUR account. If you want us to access it, please post your login ID and password....thank you :)

    Now, go back and read #2 again....there are plenty of sellers here that are great sellers but there is still a good number that will block people for any reason, such as a legit return or even asking a question.

    @ironmanl63 said:
    Thank you for the reply’s. Was not trying to give access to my account just wanted to show the messages. I just thought it was rude to block me for asking a question.

    I think he was kidding.

    I hope

    Frank

    BHNC #203

  • DavideoDavideo Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 18, 2018 11:52AM

    Without knowing the question, no one can really provide any feedback about your exact scenario. Many seemingly simple questions can be potential red flags to sellers: detailed return policy questions, questioning the assigned grade, or questions that make you seem particularly demanding. You may be the most easy-going, accommodating buyer in the world, but if your question makes you seem difficult, a seller may definitely block you.

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,281 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Treashunt said:
    no, but..
    as soon as I see 'estates' in the seller's name--

    I RUN!

    same here (its a good thing to)

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hey, You all bashing a great seller because of their name. You lose because of a name.

    The seller in question sells very nice coins. Your loss for not considering them by a name.

  • ironmanl63ironmanl63 Posts: 1,974 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:
    Hey, You all bashing a great seller because of their name. You lose because of a name.

    The seller in question sells very nice coins. Your loss for not considering them by a name.

    I haven't heard anyone bash anyone. Just stating their opinion! Snowflake out much? It seems like you have skin in the game!

    I thought it was really poor to ban me and that is why I posted. The coin I wanted is gone and I am moving on. I will not be looking at any of their other auctions. A great seller would of had my money for their coin. I would not consider them a great seller. I do have skin in the game!

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ironmanl63 said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:
    Hey, You all bashing a great seller because of their name. You lose because of a name.

    The seller in question sells very nice coins. Your loss for not considering them by a name.

    I haven't heard anyone bash anyone. Just stating their opinion! Snowflake out much? It seems like you have skin in the game!

    I thought it was really poor to ban me and that is why I posted. The coin I wanted is gone and I am moving on. I will not be looking at any of their other auctions. A great seller would of had my money for their coin. I would not consider them a great seller. I do have skin in the game!

    ah, what is your ebay handle .... ?

  • No HeadlightsNo Headlights Posts: 2,105 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @johnny9434 said:

    @Treashunt said:
    no, but..
    as soon as I see 'estates' in the seller's name--

    I RUN!

    same here (its a good thing to)

    How about if you see “my grandpas coins I know nothing about”?

  • ironmanl63ironmanl63 Posts: 1,974 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Copied and pasted in order exactly how it went down. After my last message I could not buy or communicate with them. Later I found out I could go back to my original message and send a communication thru it. I was to late the coin sold. I may not be the sweetest talker but thought it was very poor to ban me over these 2 messages. I was prepared to spend some good money with them. The coins sold so I guess they did not loose much. But they did loose me as a potential buyer! Even though EOC says their GREAT!

    New message to: sellingcoinestates

    Why do you cover the certification numbers? I always look coins up before purchasing. I will not purchase a coin with out knowing the cert #!

    sellingcoinestates:

    If the certification numbers check out are you going to buy it?

    New message to: sellingcoinestates

    Possibly. The first thing I do with any pcgs certified coin is check the cert. Lots of good info. Sometimes not so much.
    Hard to check when it is covered.

  • Dave99BDave99B Posts: 8,702 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pretty bizarre behavior on the sellers part. As others have said.....RUN.

    Dave

    Always looking for original, better date VF20-VF35 Barber quarters and halves, and a quality beer.
  • MattTheRileyMattTheRiley Posts: 806 ✭✭✭✭

    It looks like most of his listings show a cert number now, for what it's worth.

  • ironmanl63ironmanl63 Posts: 1,974 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It wasn't even that big of a deal. I actually thought I might be helping them because I am probably not the only one who checks certs before buying. Getting banned is what threw me for a loop.

  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 18, 2018 5:41PM

    Actually, no, it isn't "our" or "my" loss. It's theirs. As a seller, one would want all the buyers one could get. As a buyer, I really don't lose. Maybe miss out on a deal, but I can bet there is very little that they sell, at a price I would pay, that I would miss or couldn't get from another seller.

    It really isn't a "seller's market" right now.

    Also, just above, the OP puts the exchange with them in "writing". While I could see a short tempered person being annoyed, the fact that they blocked him for that, and the fact that they put "if it checks out, will you buy it?" in there, leads me more to avoiding them for that crap than even the name would.

    I have been in sales before, I know qualifying questions and how to steer someone to what YOU want.....I disagree with it in many cases like this. Pushy seller who doesn't want to answer or be bothered.

    To the OP.....MANY sellers used to hide the cert numbers due to registry thefts (people wanting to steal the number and put it in the registry for themselves....PITA). People also did/do it because of counterfeiters.

    Most of the time, nowadays, however, that has all gone by the wayside. They could have easily answered you.

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:
    Hey, You all bashing a great seller because of their name. You lose because of a name.

    The seller in question sells very nice coins. Your loss for not considering them by a name.

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • thefinnthefinn Posts: 2,657 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Welcome to Oscar the Grouch Coins. "You gonna buy that coin or not?!?!"

    thefinn
  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @No Headlights said:

    @johnny9434 said:

    @Treashunt said:
    no, but..
    as soon as I see 'estates' in the seller's name--

    I RUN!

    same here (its a good thing to)

    How about if you see “my grandpas coins I know nothing about”?

    the same:

    delete it.
    Grandpa was an wrong to leave his coins to an idiot.

    Frank

    BHNC #203

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,281 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Treashunt said:

    @No Headlights said:

    @johnny9434 said:

    @Treashunt said:
    no, but..
    as soon as I see 'estates' in the seller's name--

    I RUN!

    same here (its a good thing to)

    How about if you see “my grandpas coins I know nothing about”?

    the same:

    delete it.
    Grandpa was an wrong to leave his coins to an idiot.

    its all bogus. will dispose of it for you >:)

  • DDODDO Posts: 44 ✭✭

    :(

  • PhilLynottPhilLynott Posts: 898 ✭✭✭✭✭

    LOL "if the certs check out are you going to buy it?"

    What on earth, why is he holding the cert numbers ransom. I wonder if it shows previous sales prices or something and he wants to hide his profit margin.

  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,750 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They don't want you to see what they just paid for their coins on HA or GC.

    Isn't it required by ebay to provide the cert number?

    Collector, occasional seller

  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,750 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @thefinn said:
    Welcome to Oscar the Grouch Coins. "You gonna buy that coin or not?!?!"

    Collector, occasional seller

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