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Any Lincoln cent collectors have a 1946/? matching this? There must be more of them.

Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited December 6, 2018 2:06PM in U.S. Coin Forum

The coin is not damaged. The curved outline above the "6" is raised. I promised the owner I would post it here.

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  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,309 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Die hubbed through something?

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,755 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pretty cool!

  • abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    First I've heard or scene of this.

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,750 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Might be a gas bubble. Try some TUMS.

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,857 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The loop at the top of the 6 and the horizontal line through the top of the loop of the 6 certainly look like the number 2. I can't explain how it got there but if there are others out there it could be a new variety.

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  • JeffnluJeffnlu Posts: 286 ✭✭✭✭

    I've got a few rolls of 46's. I'll take a look.

  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,309 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CaptHenway said:
    Might be a gas bubble. Try some TUMS.

    Poke it with a stick.

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:
    The loop at the top of the 6 and the horizontal line through the top of the loop of the 6 certainly look like the number 2. I can't explain how it got there but if there are others out there it could be a new variety.

    The owner thinks it is a "2". Unfortunately. it is placed too high on the die and there are four years in between. So an engraver punching in the last numeral (on the first die of the day) picked up a "2" punch? This possible error makes more sense as an upside down "6."

  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have not seen anything like it on 1946 cents.
    I highly doubt it is a "2".

  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,309 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Insider2 said:

    @PerryHall said:
    The loop at the top of the 6 and the horizontal line through the top of the loop of the 6 certainly look like the number 2. I can't explain how it got there but if there are others out there it could be a new variety.

    The owner thinks it is a "2". Unfortunately. it is placed too high on the die and there are four years in between. So an engraver punching in the last numeral (on the first die of the day) picked up a "2" punch? This possible error makes more sense as an upside down "6."

    Of course, the other thing that makes that unlikely is that there was no such thing as a "2" punch or a "6" punch in 1946. The dates were in the hub.

  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting, never saw one like it before !!! :)

    Timbuk3
  • AkbeezAkbeez Posts: 2,697 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Coin either has worms or a natural artifact. Latter more likely.

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  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,936 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll get you a dozen of them right away....................................now where did I put that time machine?

    bob ;)

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Being raised on on old copper cent, it could be a die artifact that escaped the attention of the checker - maybe Friday after a liquid lunch... :D:D Cheers, RickO

  • Any tips on taking such detailed photo's?

  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @FredWeinberg may have some ideas. I've never seen one.

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @GKSparks said:
    Any tips on taking such detailed photo's?

    Get a microscope and learn about "white balance." You can post this question to the forum members who actually take good images. Additionally, search the archives here. That's probably the best and faster thing to do,

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PS I suggested that the owner of this coin send it to our host. :)

  • Oh okay, thank you! Still learning...

  • ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DIMEMAN has one he posted on his thread :)

  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I haven't really searched my 46P rolls like I have the branch mints.
    To be honest, 46P is kinda boring to a variety hunter.

    But I have seen many of these type of anomalies in the Lincoln series.
    Here are 2 examples I have pics on this pc to show.



    Or how about the 7 hiding back there ?

    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,270 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think it's an upside down 6, could it be a clashed die? I dunno. Peace Roy

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  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not a '2' imo - based on the photo,
    I'd guess it's a die scratch possibly,
    although I don't recall seeing one
    like this on this date.

    At some point, someone will have
    to view the coin in-hand to determine
    if it's a die scratch or a lamination bubble,
    or something else.

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  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JRocco said: "...But I have seen many of these type of anomalies in the Lincoln series."

    IMO, this is the same thing. NOW, what caused it?

  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Don't look like its attached to the top of the 6...Just guessing.

  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,309 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That one looks like a stray mint mark punch.

  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is the question..

    The only answer I ever came up with was a piece of dropped "gunk" from a design element that was
    metallic enough to damage the die and leave a formed impression from where the gunk originated.

    Several years ago I found this discovery piece that several experts including Wiles labeled a doubled die.
    I have about 5 gem state examples of this die. It was later questioned to be such, but what is it ?
    I assume the same cause as the above examples.
    1992P DDO

    On a different note but possibly from a similar situation....

    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Awaiting results. Another learning thread.

  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,309 ✭✭✭✭✭

    John Wexler has a die variety category he calls "UFO" (as opposed to DDO, DDR, RPM, etc.), meaning "Unidentified Fascinating Oddity." There's a 1949 cent he shows that has a stray curved line comping out of the diagonal stroke of the 4. I imagine that given the 1946 coin, he may list it as a UFO, assuming it's not some weird planchet issue.

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,547 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Some coins are just plain "Interesting".

    That's an understatement, JR.

    Pete

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  • AkbeezAkbeez Posts: 2,697 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JRocco said:

    Very cool pics. I know this one. That's a DNR. Doubled Nose Ring. ;)

    I hadn't heard of the UFOs tho. Learned, thx.

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  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well if we are talking about interesting Lincoln's take a look at this 44P
    Extra metal on the 9, wild points on lower left triangle of both 4's, extra metal on feet of both 4's,
    split serifs on crosslets of 4's and more....
    Fun coin


    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • 66RB66RB Posts: 2,516 ✭✭✭

    The 1944 is a doubled master die, all 1944 cents display the doubling to some degree.

  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think it might be a "partially dropped" digit?

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