OT: the Michigan-Ohio War of 1836
CaptHenway
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Go Blue!
Somebody please post Michigan and Ohio statehood quarters!
Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
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3 yards and a cloud of dust...
Watching game . . .just came here during a commercial . . . .
O...…..H...……
Drunner
Go Blue! Urban needs some humble pie
I know this is OT and really bothers the keyboard jockeys . . . . so Rah Rah Coins . . . I love filling holes and will post later a seminal thread on that . .
But GO BUCKEYES !!! Beat ichigan!
Living in Utah and having Utah- byu tonight . . .but O..H..I..O.. my second team . . . . .
Rivalry week !!!!!!!!!!!!! Nothing better (except maybe Army Navy) -- (that, from an Air Force '78 guy) .
Go coins . . hey . . .the games start with a coin flip !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Drunner
I paid for my junior year of college at Michigan State by selling tee shirts in the dorms that said “Muck Fichigan”. Hard to know who to root for!
Latin American Collection
Michigan scores!
Michigan scores again!
Thank you, idiotic Ohio receiver! Calling a fair catch on the one and then muffing the ball!
The numismatic connection to this war is that Congress decided to give Toledo to Ohio but in compensation give Michigan most of the Upper Peninsula, which otherwise would have gone to Wisconsin.
When copper was discovered in the U.P. Some of it ended up as Indian cents. Wisconsin would have just used it to make beer-making tanks, or something.
The Northwest Ordinance of 1787 established the boundary for the new lands for the US to be comprised of no less than three states and but no more than five, with the border between the northern and southern new states being a line running due East from the southern most point of Lake Michigan, which happened to put the border South of the Maumee river basin. Ohio, drafting its constitution in 1802, caught wind of this and felt control of the waterway (before rail) was vital and added a proviso that if this was true they they move their border to the most northern cape of the Maumee river. Since congress did not object, nor look at it much for that matter, Ohio claimed the land based on Congresses' acceptance of THEEE Ohio constitution, as illegibly written....and that's how the fight started.
Two Stickney drew first blood and Jackson settled it and Michigan is the only state to be admitted to the union under a condition - relinquish any right of ownership to the Toledo strip. As consolation, Michigan got the western two thirds of the UP from the Wisconsin territory as Capthenway points out which everyone in Michigan thought was a bum rap because it was 'frozen tundra' and not farm worthy.
Doesn't look like Blue is going to do it; yet again.
Ohio
And Michigan.
Another . . . . . . . . .
Nice day.
Now. . . .
Go UTES !!!!!!!!!
Drunner
Wow - this thread got real quiet after halftime....on the bright side, the UM fans won’t have to wait until January to see their team play in a bowl game 😉