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The real deal I hope - I found this today - a DDO/R
rainbowstew_54
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Aside from the famous 1955 DDO being easy to confirm, while most DD's are subtle, do the Experts need the coin in hand to make a determination for a genuine DD or can they tell the difference by looking at the coin in 
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I'm really not seeing doubling there. Of course there is a well known 1995 DDO. worn dies and machine/shelf doubling can play tricks on the eyes. Maybe an expert will chime in.
Not sure what you're looking at. If there is any doubling, which may be on the date, just looks like mechanical doubling. I don't see a DDO/R.
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Doubled dies are not random, in other words they don't just pop up on any coin. Is there a known DD on 1993D cents (I don't know the answer myself)?
I believe at some point there has been one or two coins with both DDO and DDR, but normally that is not likely at
Don't see any in the CPG (Cherry Pickers Guide). Looks like mechanical doubling on the MM. No worries -- I've been fooled many times too! Keep looking!
Can you share your thoughts on this coin rainbowstew ?
Where do you see the doubling on the obverse and where on the reverse ?
Please be as specific as you can so we can zero in on what you see.
It can be tough to see doubling in a pic sometimes, but a handy little hint to sometimes help determine
if the coin is a true doubled die or mechanical doubling is to look at the coin from 2 different angles.
If the "doubling" you see is only visible from one angle and not the other than you are seeing mechanical doubling.
True hub doubling will be visible from any angle.
I neither see any DD nor any evidence that there is a known DD.
As a comp rainbowstew here are a couple examples of true hub doubling on coins found
in the wild. First is a 1936 DDO and second is a 1955 DDO die 2.
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Oh well ....Ooooh I did find a 1982 small date today! LOL maybe I should just stick to looking for small dates, large dates and CUDs - I'm kidding - But hey...I sure do appreciate the critique and guidance.
Thanks RBS for pointing out what you see. I believe from what I can see that the areas are
showing push or mechanical doubling and not true hub doubling. Mechanical doubling can be very deceiving but try that
little trick I spoke of above and you can see mechanical doubling more times than not.
And keep on searching.....varieties are out there.
Thanks for the tip JRocco, I'll be sure to do that from now on
Check CoinFacts for all Pcgs accepted varieties for any given year. All the rest are “minor variety” coins. There is a website and a mobile app. If you have a smart phone use it for pics, you can edit and markup highlights on areas you suspect of error.
Variety vista is another website with TONS of info on other DDO DDR RPM OMM and design varieties.
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@rainbowstew_54 ... Make sure that 82' only weighs in at 2.5 gr. because it weighs 3.1 gr. you have a BINGO!
Just my opinion, but anyone searching for DDs should ONLY be looking at dates with known DDs.
Unless you are an expert looking to make a new discovery of a previously unknown DD, it is a total waste of time to scrutinize dates that are not known to have a DD.
Finding errors is about volume. Look at more coins, rather than look more closely at fewer coins.
Good point JBK - Thanks! (that must be what is meant when I hear or see the words 'Key Dates);?
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Usually the “key date” is the coin or coins for a collection that are the rarest (hard to find) and have a substantial premium (costs to purchase) to own.
It's a nice change Rainbow, at least you appreciate the information that's afforded to you here. All too often, the poster will get upset or angry when the answers are not what they want to hear.
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@rainbowstew_54 .... Not a DDO as noted above... I can see you have the 'coin search fever', and that is a good thing...it will help you a lot if you get the Cherry Pickers Guide....There you can compare any anomalies you encounter with the known varieties. Also, research mechanical doubling or machine doubling or shelf doubling online. In the meantime, continue to ask questions here... and have fun. Cheers, RickO
I joined facebook and a few groups there, but, I figure if I want to learn from the best I should go to where the best are. I really do appreciate PCGS and all the respondents here with great feedback - this group is the best. On a more somber note, I had hubby take me to the nearest pawn shop this AM to weigh my 1982 D sd penny and it came out to be 2.5 gm.....ehhh as I heard through my head noise Sorry,not a winner, Please try again..... and the song remains the same, back to the search
All too often you will find that the definition of rare is you ain't got it. They are out there, just takes a lot of looking.
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Check out the photos and info at www.coppercoins.com.
Take in a little at a time as it is a LOT to digest.
Other posters have also mentioned that at first look for known varieties.
Then, as your skills progress, you can look for the unknown.
Are you interested in doubled dies only? RPMs too?
What DDOs would you like to find "in the wild?"
Just wondering.
Good luck with the searching.
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@rainbowstew_54 Good to see you are participating and using all some resources, i.e., this forum, LCS, etc.
Have you picked up any books, too?
You said, “Please try again..... and the song remains the same, back to the search”
Glad you are staying positive! Keep on keeping on!