Why buy gold, today ?

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TwoSides2aCoin
TwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,223 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited November 10, 2018 8:46AM in U.S. Coin Forum

When you can get away with stealing it ....

These two got away with :
One $50 Gold American Eagle (2017)
One Gold Buffalo in mint wrap
One Ounce Gold Kangaroo in capsule
One Perth Mint gold bar in assay.
6 Quarter Ounce Gold American Eagle's (raw)
3 1935 B Swiss Franc Gold (raw)

Guess the grade on these 6 ounces of gold , and their worth ?

No. I did not call the police , yet.
I wanted to show you guys, first.

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  • grip
    grip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Was your asking price to low??????

  • SoFlo
    SoFlo Posts: 565 ✭✭✭✭
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    Did they break the showcase glass or what? Surely you didn't lay all of those out on the counter at the same time.

    After all these years my wife still thinks I'm sexy. Every time I walk by she says "What An Ass"

  • jesbroken
    jesbroken Posts: 11,253 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    $9600 Sorry for your loss.
    Jim


    When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln

    Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
  • Kkathyl
    Kkathyl Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    8K plus

    Best place to buy !
    Bronze Associate member

  • SoFlo
    SoFlo Posts: 565 ✭✭✭✭
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    Or maybe you sold them at a loss just to move the inventory?

    After all these years my wife still thinks I'm sexy. Every time I walk by she says "What An Ass"

  • SeattleSlammer
    SeattleSlammer Posts: 10,125 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Best call the police pronto.

  • Namvet69
    Namvet69 Posts: 9,424 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Robbed like with a gun, or the victim of fraud? Explain and you didn't call police because........? Peace Roy

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  • messydesk
    messydesk Posts: 20,829 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Sucks. Now that you've posted here, call the police.

    John
    Keeper of the VAM Catalog • Professional Coin Imaging • Prime Number Set • World Coins in Early America • British Trade Dollars • Variety Attribution
  • Swampboy
    Swampboy Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Sorry to hear that Joe.

    I'm glad you can still post.

    "Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working" Pablo Picasso

  • TwoSides2aCoin
    TwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,223 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Robbed ... as in theft by deception, namvet.
    The older guy wanted to get some silver and gold for his father's b/day. I showed him a few pieces. He showed me a wad of money. He wanted the stuff packed in a box, etc., While that went on, he did the "five finger discount" ( I suspect) because I saw the gold go in . When he didn't have enough cash (he had $5300) , he rolled his wad up, said he'd be back in ten minutes.
    A minute after he'd gone, something struck me as odd, and I immediately re-opened the box. The silver (part of his initial purchase) was all that was in the box.

    He and his cohort were long gone.
    As to the police being notified ? I'm just now getting over the anger and frustration.

  • TwoSides2aCoin
    TwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,223 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 8, 2018 2:38PM
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    @grip said:
    Was your asking price to low??????

    At $8000 ask, I thought it was fair. (but he was too eager at any price ) I should have known.

  • Regulated
    Regulated Posts: 2,994 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Where exactly are you located?


    What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
  • Hemispherical
    Hemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 8, 2018 2:57PM
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    Did they look like the people in this thread?

    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/comment/12109819#Comment_12109819

    Edited to add:

    Hard to compare with your picture but look at the post dated 30 Oct 18 by logger7.

  • topstuf
    topstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    NOT FUN AT ALL :'( :#

    I can still SEE that .38 pointed at me. :|

  • MilesWaits
    MilesWaits Posts: 5,598 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I am sorry to hear of your plight. It is very difficult when you’re in the state of shock and denial to try to figure things out. Time will help and you will make the right decision.

    Now riding the swell in PM's and surf.
  • thefinn
    thefinn Posts: 2,657 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    This has been discussed on here several times as mentioned - leave the stuff on the counter! This blog is a way for people to communicate what is going on, but it only works if you use it. Sorry this happened, but it could have been avoided by just saying, "Sorry, I've seen this movie already."

    thefinn
  • KollectorKing
    KollectorKing Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 8, 2018 3:40PM
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    Nil.

  • bjamin
    bjamin Posts: 141 ✭✭✭
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    I am just glad you lived to tell about it.

  • derryb
    derryb Posts: 38,614 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    check other shops in area. They gotta sell it somewhere.

    Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else. - Bastiat

  • ChrisH821
    ChrisH821 Posts: 7,151 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Any outdoor cameras catch their car?

    Collector, occasional seller

  • KollectorKing
    KollectorKing Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 8, 2018 4:17PM
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    @thefinn said:
    This has been discussed on here several times as mentioned - leave the stuff on the counter! This blog is a way for people to communicate what is going on, but it only works if you use it. Sorry this happened, but it could have been avoided by just saying, "Sorry, I've seen this movie already."

    @TwoSides2aCoin said:
    Robbed ... as in theft by deception, namvet.
    The older guy wanted to get some silver and gold for his father's b/day. I showed him a few pieces. He showed me a wad of money. He wanted the stuff packed in a box, etc., While that went on, he did the "five finger discount" ( I suspect) because I saw the gold go in . When he didn't have enough cash (he had $5300) , he rolled his wad up, said he'd be back in ten minutes.
    A minute after he'd gone, something struck me as odd, and I immediately re-opened the box. The silver (part of his initial purchase) was all that was in the box.

    He and his cohort were long gone.
    As to the police being notified ? I'm just now getting over the anger and frustration.

    I'm sure the same or other crooks reading this post will be very happy about OP posting their MO and some if not all will be using it to perfection to rob other coins shops, etc.

  • davewesen
    davewesen Posts: 6,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I would consider it theft by shoplifting, rather than deception (but I am not a lawyer or cop)

    it is still more than $1500, so a Class III felony in Nebraska

  • DollarAfterDollar
    DollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,217 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Sheesh, hope you're insured for this.

    Call the cops.

    If you do what you always did, you get what you always got.
  • YQQ
    YQQ Posts: 3,460 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 8, 2018 4:29PM
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    Call the cops, for sure

    What is the 5 finger discount?
    and what is the box trick?
    I am sure all of us are (hopefully) honest people and most of us have no idea what these terms mean.

    Today is the first day of the rest of my life
  • PocketArt
    PocketArt Posts: 1,335 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Sorry to hear about this misfortune: Contact authorities ASAP. Since you have film, and it appears that at least one individual isn't wearing gloves; it is possible they left a print on the counter, etc., and this may be crucial for any mistakes on their part.

    I'm sure they are hoping you don't report to authorities....do yourself, and us a favor- report it.

    You came out of this with a beating heart. That is worth all the gold in the world. the next victim may not be so lucky. They'll get caught.

  • sellitstore
    sellitstore Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    If you are in the business, you should be on the mailing list of these folks:

    numismaticcrimes.org/

    This particular scam is very popular lately and used by many different thieves all over the country.

    Collector and dealer in obsolete currency. Always buying all obsolete bank notes and scrip.
  • Timbuk3
    Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    OMG, how terrible. That's a huge loss !!! :'(

    Timbuk3
  • Mesh
    Mesh Posts: 86 ✭✭✭
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    more details please :(

  • sparky64
    sparky64 Posts: 7,065 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I'm very sorry to hear this but I'm also so glad you were not harmed.

    "If I say something in the woods and my wife isn't there to hear it.....am I still wrong?"

    My Washington Quarter Registry set...in progress

  • blitzdude
    blitzdude Posts: 7,726 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @CaptHenway said:
    Here is a post I made on the coin dealer network about two months ago to a dealer in Louisville, KY who got hit by the same crooks or their cousins:

    Call this guy:
    .
    Doug Davis
    817-723-7231
    Doug@numismaticcrimes.org
    .
    He has some reports of a gang of con artists working the South. Did they flash a bunch of cash and say they wanted to buy some bullion, but say they were a little short and would be back in a while?

    As soon as I saw this post I immediately thought of your Louisville post. Pretty much the identical story and if memory serves me right the thugs look very very similar.

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  • TennesseeDave
    TennesseeDave Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @YQQ said:
    Call the cops, for sure

    What is the 5 finger discount?
    and what is the box trick?
    I am sure all of us are (hopefully) honest people and most of us have no idea what these terms mean.

    Five finger discount means Stolen, as in for free.

    Trade $'s
  • AlexinPA
    AlexinPA Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    What logger7 said and the police should be first - not us.

  • BlindedByEgo
    BlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Very sorry for your loss. I'm glad that you were not physically threatened or injured.

    Check out my current listings: https://ebay.com/sch/khunt/m.html?_ipg=200&_sop=12&_rdc=1

  • thisistheshow
    thisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I am sorry to hear this. I hope they are caught.

  • Tookybandit
    Tookybandit Posts: 3,424 ✭✭✭✭
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    Glad you're okay, awful situation so sorry you had to go through that experience. Stay strong! The crooks will keep at it until they end up in jail ...and hopefully very soon!

    Back in 2000 I walked out of a Blockbuster Video store with a movie in my hand and there was a guy in my car stealing it!! Shook me up and took a while to get over it.

  • ARCO
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    I am very sorry to hear this. Theft and robbery is such a personal affront and crime. It can make you really lose trust in people. Good luck in your recovery efforts. Not much consolation, but at least the amount stolen seems to be low enough to quickly recover financially. Also lesson in how to deal with people and processes to trade coins/bullion for cash.

  • Coin Finder
    Coin Finder Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    First , I am so sorry this happened, it pisses me off to be perfectly frank.... So they switched boxes on you when you were not looking or did they pull the stuff out of the box while you were writing the receipt?

    The court jester does not play, but gently pulls the strings…

  • TwoSides2aCoin
    TwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,223 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    They stole 6 ounces. Cops were notified. Last thing the police told me....after leaving this evening, (crime lab was there getting evidence and taking a copy of the angles of view from the surveillance) was to notify others. So, I'm in Omaha down the road from the zoo... and as of today, I think it's time to close the doors.

    I thank you few, who afforded me the opportunity to serve the numismatic community for a decade.

  • Paradisefound
    Paradisefound Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I am so so sorry this terrible thing happened ...... My thoughts are with you and best of luck on the recovery.
    Glad you are safe and unhurt <3

  • KollectorKing
    KollectorKing Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 8, 2018 7:01PM
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    There are crooks everywhere including this forum. Remember old time cu members

    kryptonitecomics - I believe he is in prison.

    BigD5 & finally

    the late sample slab person

    I wonder how much $$ the above cu members stole from us?

  • ChangeInHistory
    ChangeInHistory Posts: 3,121 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Really sorry to hear this. Somehow, some way I hope the punks are caught and you get at least some of the gold back.

  • Swampboy
    Swampboy Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    You gave it a good run @TwoSides2aCoin

    "Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working" Pablo Picasso

  • TwoSides2aCoin
    TwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,223 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I will say life as a welder, mechanic, soldier, roofer, entertainer, and single parent was much more fun, and easier than this business with the "walk-ins" I've dealt with.
    It's a good hobby, though And I took precautions. At the end of the day these guys were good at being bad.

    And why I didn't call the police immediately ? My temper. The cops might have shot me.

  • Paradisefound
    Paradisefound Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    You do what you feel is right for you and that's all that matter.
    I hope your insurance will cover part of it and the most important part is your safety.
    PF <3

  • Raybo
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    Sorry to hear about this Joe. :/

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