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1913 type one NGC MS68* star buffalo nickel, monster buffalo is yours for $40,000,00!! now on eBay

BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭✭✭

Behold the monster 1913 type one business strike buffalo nickel, a mind blowing NGC MS68+ STAR grade!! Only $40K (or best offer) and it can be yours. Don’t wait, don’t hesitate! Should be gone by tomorrow morning!!

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Collector of Buffalo Nickels and other 20th century United States Coinage
a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"

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  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 7, 2018 2:51PM

    Just wanted to share these pictures with all who may be interested. I cannot wait to see what would happen if either pcgs or ngc slabbed a 1913 type one buffalo, or perhaps a 1938-d as MS69. Can you just see the giant food fight for this coin in a major auction?

    Collector of Buffalo Nickels and other 20th century United States Coinage
    a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 7,427 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sorry, I don’t like the appearance setting aside it’s grade and star status.

    Seated Half Society member #38
    "Got a flaming heart, can't get my fill"
  • rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,875 ✭✭✭✭

    Stunning coin

    "You keep your 1804 dollar and 1822 half eagle -- give me rainbow roosies in MS68."
    rainbowroosie April 1, 2003
  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 7, 2018 4:08PM

    Lovely coin, but a very generous grade. Not as bad as Skips @insider2 MS67+ Bust Half, but still bad! :)

  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Curios what PCGS would grade it. Just thinking out lowed.

  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,810 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Insider2 said:
    Thanks for your post! Ever since I began seriously collecting coins, attending shows, and hanging out in coin shops, I could count the number of rainbow nickels I ever saw on 10 fingers. Their colors were always muted. I cannot recall seeing many of these coins in the 1980's and early 1990's either. That's why I feel very fortunate that untold numbers have been preserved and are coming on to the market so that those of us today and future generations can marvel at their beauty! :wink:

    No need to wink. I, too, have seen buffalo nickels since the days of being used in commerce. Never saw anything like these coins. Never in the wild or coin shops or collections. Didn't exist. Modern anomaly that ruins the series for me.

    bob ;)

    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What would happen if someone soaked a thick cardbord album page in old motor oil and let it dry for a week or baked it dry. Then insert a coin and heat it or let it sit in a gas oven with the pilot light for warmth? Any thoughts?

  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Insider2 said:
    What would happen if someone soaked a thick cardbord album page in old motor oil and let it dry for a week or baked it dry. Then insert a coin and heat it or let it sit in a gas oven with the pilot light for warmth? Any thoughts?

    It's entirely possible that you might have just proven four-dimensional space-time continuum.

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 7, 2018 5:36PM

    I gave away nothing. I'd like to see someone try it posting a before and after. If they can make pretty coins as this, let's ship them rolls of gem Unc nickels to "fix."

    There are books that give chemical formulas to color different metals. Unfortunately, some of the chemicals can kill you.

    This is not rocket science. No matter if this is NT or AT, it is pretty. ADDITIONALLY, any one with a brain can tell that something was in contat with the complete edge of the coin as the effect is even. I've given my opinion about toning before. If it looks NT, that's good enough for me. If it can be done in several seconds, that's even better! :)

  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Absolutely gorgeous! But a 68??? Not in my book. I'm a fan of color but I don't think it compensates for the many reverse marks on this coin.

  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,635 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I can hear the wife now, YOU SPENT $40,000 ON A NICKEL?

  • david3142david3142 Posts: 3,576 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 7, 2018 9:36PM

    @Smudge said:
    I can hear the wife now, YOU SPENT $40,000 ON A NICKEL?

    What do you think Bruce’s wife says about his 1913? :smile:

    (Probably, “looks like you got a deal!”)

  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Insider2 said:
    What would happen if someone soaked a thick cardbord album page in old motor oil and let it dry for a week or baked it dry. Then insert a coin and heat it or let it sit in a gas oven with the pilot light for warmth? Any thoughts?

    Yes my first thought when I first looked at this MS68+star coin was that it might be an excellent “gasser” coin.
    done by some expert coin doctor.

    Collector of Buffalo Nickels and other 20th century United States Coinage
    a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @koynekwest said:
    Absolutely gorgeous! But a 68??? Not in my book. I'm a fan of color but I don't think it compensates for the many reverse marks on this coin.

    The reverse marks also seemed to me to be insistent with an ms68+ grade

    Collector of Buffalo Nickels and other 20th century United States Coinage
    a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 8, 2018 6:06AM

    This 1916p which I had in another thread has been sold on ebay. Was in an pcgs ms65 slab. Asking price was over $800

    Collector of Buffalo Nickels and other 20th century United States Coinage
    a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 8, 2018 6:19AM

    This coin is not on eBay anymore so was apparently sold. It does look similar to the ngc ms68+ star buff we are talking about here. I am personally suspicious of both coins, but apparently they both passed pcgs and ngc’s sniff tests for non AT coins. I dunno myself thought

    Me thinks that the expert coin doctors are really really getting good at their craft. I want to emphasize here this is just my personal opinion. Both pieces are in fact very attractive in my opinion.

    I could see someone paying $800 for the 1916 coin but not 40K for the 1913 coin!!

    Collector of Buffalo Nickels and other 20th century United States Coinage
    a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 8, 2018 6:20AM

    As a point of comparison on eBay the following ngc ms68 1913 type one buffalo is being offered for about $8400.
    This picture is not that good and actually hurts the coins chances of selling IMO.

    Collector of Buffalo Nickels and other 20th century United States Coinage
    a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭✭✭

    reverse of the above 1 913 type one ngc ms68 coin follows.....

    Collector of Buffalo Nickels and other 20th century United States Coinage
    a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BUFFNIXX said:
    This 1916p which I had in another thread has been sold on ebay. Was in an pcgs ms65 slab. Asking price was over $800

    This piece is not even close to the beauty of the OP's coin! The strike is unremarkable also. At one time in the 1980's the highest grade due to the strike would have been MS-64 as it possibly would have been untoned back then too.

  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

    How do you buy a $40K coin on eBay as PP has a $10K cap?

    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,508 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Catbert said:
    Sorry, I don’t like the appearance setting aside it’s grade and star status.

    It really is a great looking coin.

    Let's set aside the fact that it was clashed (doesn't affect the grade any) and the die got rotated a bit (ditto for affecting grade).

    It's a nice coin.

    But NOT $40,000 nice.

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    These colorful Buffalo nickels always amaze me.....I have many, many Buffs, slabbed and raw... and not one, NOT ONE!! has tarnish... Maybe I will try the @Insider2 method.... :D;) Nah, I do not collect tarnish anyway....maybe if I sold coins.... ;) Cheers, RickO

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,508 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    These colorful Buffalo nickels always amaze me.....I have many, many Buffs, slabbed and raw... and not one, NOT ONE!! has tarnish... Maybe I will try the @Insider2 method.... :D;) Nah, I do not collect tarnish anyway....maybe if I sold coins.... ;) Cheers, RickO

    Now I KNOW i've entered the Bizarro World!

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
  • HallcoHallco Posts: 3,652 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Smudge said:
    I can hear the wife now, YOU SPENT $40,000 ON A NICKEL?

    I cannot imagine. Many years ago my wife got an email about a month after an Ebay auction ended that I was the under bidder on stating it was NPB. It was for a 1996-W Roosevelt in PCGS 68FT(yeah, even @Hallco was into "some" modern crap at one time) ;) . I can't remember the exact amount, but I will never forget it. She called me at work and said "Did you really bid THAT MUCH for a DIME"??? :D

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said: "Maybe I will try the @Insider2 method.... :D;)"

    LOL. I wish you would give it a try.

    I'm not a "coin doctor" but I like colorful coins. Anyway, what I can say for sure about the OP's coin is that something affected its circumference at the same time. I've always got an ear to the ground for methods to "doctor" coins. "Old motor oil, heat, eggs etc. are all mentioned.

    If the OP's coin is actually market acceptable AT, I just tried to think of how the entire edge could be touched at the same time as that's would be the case with NT in a holder.

  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,039 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Striking look for sure. I’ve had some dealers tell me to be weary of target toning like this on Buffs, especially Buffs in newer slabs. If it had the same color (regardless of grade) and was in a gold shield PCGS slab I’d be less skeptical. Someone will really need to take a flyer on this piece if they’ve just gotta have it.

  • OldhoopsterOldhoopster Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Insider2 said:
    I gave away nothing. I'd like to see someone try it posting a before and after. If they can make pretty coins as this, let's ship them rolls of gem Unc nickels to "fix."

    There are books that give chemical formulas to color different metals. Unfortunately, some of the chemicals can kill you.

    This is not rocket science. No matter if this is NT or AT, it is pretty. ADDITIONALLY, any one with a brain can tell that something was in contat with the complete edge of the coin as the effect is even. I've given my opinion about toning before. If it looks NT, that's good enough for me. If it can be done in several seconds, that's even better! :)

    Several second NT. Love it. Better living through Chemistry

    Member of the ANA since 1982
  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Oldhoopster said: "Several second NT. Love it. Better living through Chemistry."

    Cool, does it work on silver?

  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SeattleSlammer said:
    Striking look for sure. I’ve had some dealers tell me to be weary of target toning like this on Buffs, especially Buffs in newer slabs. If it had the same color (regardless of grade) and was in a gold shield PCGS slab I’d be less skeptical. Someone will really need to take a flyer on this piece if they’ve just gotta have it.

    NGC gave it a STAR so they think it is real and beautiful.

  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,271 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Insider2 said:
    What would happen if someone soaked a thick cardbord album page in old motor oil and let it dry for a week or baked it dry. Then insert a coin and heat it or let it sit in a gas oven with the pilot light for warmth? Any thoughts?

    with or without pepperoni?

    Gold has a world price entirely unaffected by accounting games between the Treasury and the Fed. - Jim Rickards

  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:

    @Insider2 said:
    What would happen if someone soaked a thick cardbord album page in old motor oil and let it dry for a week or baked it dry. Then insert a coin and heat it or let it sit in a gas oven with the pilot light for warmth? Any thoughts?

    with or without pepperoni?

    .....and then you send the toned coin to ngc or pcgs and get an ms68 or so grade? I not only think its possible I think it has happened. So hard to tell AT from natural toning.

    Collector of Buffalo Nickels and other 20th century United States Coinage
    a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's outstanding! Buffs with that kind of color are few and far between. But 40 grand???? Now if it was in a PCGS slab..........

  • MoneyMonkey1MoneyMonkey1 Posts: 104 ✭✭✭

    Let me go home and get my wallet...

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 9, 2018 12:02PM

    @NVU said:
    what a beautiful coin!
    My Buff in MS67 for comparison

    I like your coin better just because of its center contrast. Perhaps it is just the image as both coins are wonderful.

  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    NVU-that coin is spectacular!

  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow, absolutely amazing !!! :)

    Timbuk3
  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Insider2 said:

    @NVU said:
    what a beautiful coin!
    My Buff in MS67 for comparison

    I like your coin better just because of its center contrast. Perhaps it is just the image as both coins are wonderful.

    Absolutely beautiful coin be AT or NT, who knows for sure!!

    Collector of Buffalo Nickels and other 20th century United States Coinage
    a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
  • abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A dealer at a large show once stated to my buddy and me these blue centered, rainbow edge coins (mostly Buffalos) were manufactured by a single person.
    We both walked away convinced it was that dealer talking about himself.

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,508 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @abcde12345 said:
    A dealer at a large show once stated to my buddy and me these blue centered, rainbow edge coins (mostly Buffalos) were manufactured by a single person.
    We both walked away convinced it was that dealer talking about himself.

    If they're being cooked like that, then slabbed, watch out!

    Obviously the "sniffer" didn't pick up anything.

    Guess that's a good thing.

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon

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