A couple of 1916 Buffs I'd like to share....
crazyhounddog
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This 1916-P has received the CAC'ed sticker at 65 so the holder is meaningless to me. Not that it really matters so much anyways as it was the color and great luster along with the way the coin presents itself is what attracted me.
The 16-s was a NGC coin with the assigned grade of 63. Again the grade isn't what means as much as the coin itself the way I collect. None the less I got a deal on a croosover with a friend so I went for the plunge. It's a very pretty Buff. At least I think it is and pcgs bumped the grade to a 64. Worth the time and money spent.
Here's an interesting 16-d I didn't need to think hard about adding to my collection. It's graded by pcgs as a 61. Okay, 61, but the coin itself speaks much louder than the grade assigned. It was like someone pulled it from a roll back in 1916 and took extremely good care of it over the years. This Buff is blemish free and that's really saying something. The color is unique in every way and the weak strike was a sign of the times back in 1916 due to poor maintenance with the working dies along with the mint purchasing it's material from outside vendors with not much or any QA. With many planchets from this material the alloys were improperly mixed so as a result you'll see streaking and a lot of lamination for the early years of the series.
Thanks for stopping by and taking a look. Comments or questions are always welcome as always.
Happy hunting, Joe
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Purdy herd!
Very nice!
Collector, occasional seller
Wonderful pieces, have a few slabbed Buff's but they aren't pretty like yours.
I challenge anyone to find a blemish on the 16-D. That way I can argue with you that is isn't
Well Joe, that depends on what the meaning of the word blemish is ....
With that said I would like to draw your eye to the buffs rear leg about halfway up the thigh.
Yeah yeah yeah....my wife tells me to knock it off all the time too.
With these buffalo nickels it can get tough when grading. If you can remember the first place to show rub will be the hipbone & flank area it'll help ya. There's other places to look also but the hipbone and flank is the highest points on the buffalo nickel and the easiest to see right away. My eyes are always drawn to this area. Now the tricky part is that area is also the last area to fill out when weakly struck, as this 16-d will clearly show ya. It's flat as a pancake. So, what you need to do is be able to distinguish the difference between rub and a weak strike. If you notice on this 16-d if ya look at this hipbone & flank area real hard you will not see any rub just flatness do to the weak strike and the fatigued dies. If you don't see wispy little lines or light scratches, RUB, in that area there's a chance it's an ms Buff. This task is much easier to do in hand as you can tilt the coin to and fro looking for a break in the luster then zeroing in on any particular area. It looks like this one had a lot of miles on the the die so the mint worker either lighted the press up or this was a thin planchet. Never the less I love this piece and is a mainstay in my buffalo nickel collection.
Nice coins Joe, and not a blemish in sight.
The bump in grade on the S looks correct to me. Too bad about the strike on the D, but the color is nice.
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Joe.
It would be a treat for me to be able to sit down at a big table with you, under really good lighting conditions, and have you place everyone of your stunning buffalos on the table for me to look at and drool over (I would bring a Bibb or two with me).
Talk about eye candy.
Looking at your buffalos reminds me of looking at the mind blowing set of buffalos that Andy displayed at Santa Clara many years ago.
Kevin
For starters this particular Buff has two rear legs
None the less I see nothing on either leg that would constitute a blemish. But we can have fun with it
Kevin ,
I know for sure we could talk for days at a well lite up table and still be having interesting conversations. You could show me your absolutely stunning cameo collection. You just showed me just a part of it at the Santa Clara show and I almost fell out of my seat. Maybe one day we can work it out and that would be a good day for sure.
I hope to see you at the Santa Cara show again soon.
Of all toned coins, I think the Buffalo takes the cake.
Some great color there, Joe. I saw most of your buffs a few years ago when I built your album, but I would like to see all of them again plus all the new ones. SanctionII has a great idea. Thanks for sharing.
Jim
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Very pretty coins, Joe. Here's a couple of mine-
Very nice my man
The 16 was one of the few really colorful Buffs I had, but sold recently.
Jim
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
That's a great looking piece, Jim.
Here's one I bought long ago. It's hammered.
Ahh the world has been righted, Beautiful Stuff Joe
Steve
Joe.
I only have a couple of MS buffalos (in my 7070 type Set), but I have a sizeable number of MS toned early Jefferson Nickels that are eye appealing luster bombs. A few of them are also FS.
Santa Clara would be a great place to get together again, however I am also up for going to Coin Shows up your way, including the Sacramento area.
Joe, Beautiful Buffs as usual. I'm wondering if the 16-D is a earlier die state of what eventually became the 3-1/2 legger. I've owned a few of them, (not as pretty for sure) and they all have the same motheaten look on the obverse and reverse.
Wow, Joe, that is one well struck Buff. Love the braid on the obverse and the cape on the reverse. Nice coin there, bud.
Jim
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
I am a bit familiar with that variety. From what I remember the second 1 in the date has a tail on the lower lefthand side. At least from what I remember that’s the dead giveaway. But yes you’re right they tend to look similar to this one I’m showing.
Until I get these contractors outta my house I won’t be going anywhere. If on the weekend I might be able the swing it. Keep me posted bud.
Love that 16-S, Joe!
jom
Hey there, Jom, ol buddy. Yes I like that one too.
Good to hear from you.
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Is that CLASHED DIES that I spy????
Back in the day we’d call that type of clashing the “Whisker” variety. Maybe they still do I dunno. That’s the E plurabus unum clashed under the Indian’s chin.
Yep-chin whiskers. AKA as a lettered chin. We're talkin' WAY back on those.
There is a normal die that never evolved into the 3 1/2 legged that looks like your '16-D. That one has some of the most distinctive and attractive toning I've seen on that date/Mint.
That would be clashing from the hump of the buffalo. This illustration might help.
The '16-D looks like a combination of weak strike and worn dies. I think the slab needs to be polished to remove the scratches so the coin can show off. All very nice coins. Thank you.
Those first two are incredibly well struck Buffs... I love detail on Buffalo nickels... and they sure show it well.... Cheers, RickO
Very nice ones!
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thats a nice group of coin. i do like that 16 s best but what the heck there all good
great looking buffalos, you have a great eye for those!