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1/2 dollar gold coin (1851) AND 2-1/2 dollars gold coin (1903)

I found in my late grandma's jewelry box a couple of US coins. I'm looking for dome info about rarity, condition and of course price ;) ....

The first coin is a regular 2 1/2 dollar Eagle with the liberty head in very good condition. Nothing special but I would love to hear about what you guys think of the condition.

The other coin really intrigue me, i haven't found ANY information on specialized coin books or website. Is a really small coin, about one centimeter (see picture), that says 1/2 dollar with the numbers in a not really straight position. At the other side had a bust with ten stars around (it doesn't say LIBERTY). Can anyone tell me what kind of coin it is or if it is really a real coin :( .




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    RegulatedRegulated Posts: 2,994 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Both appear to be base metal facsimiles. I've never seen a copy of a quarter eagle like that before.


    What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
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    KindaNewishKindaNewish Posts: 830 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Woa, your grandma collected fake coins? She was so ahead of the times!

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    Very crude fakes struck from hand engraved dies. They may be contemporary circulating counterfeits.

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    jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,437 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As others have said, both fake, unfortunately.

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    RegulatedRegulated Posts: 2,994 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dirtygold said:
    Very crude fakes struck from hand engraved dies. They may be contemporary circulating counterfeits.

    I'd guess that the quarter eagle may be a game counter of some sort - I don't think it would fool anyone.


    What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 10,011 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sorry, but I gotta agree with the others.

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    BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for posting the photos before you spent any money trying to certify those pieces. As mentioned, both are not US Mint products... Please feel free to stick around and post more photos of what you find.

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    Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Welcome to the forum, unfortunately both of them are not genuine !!! :'(

    Timbuk3
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    divecchiadivecchia Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mail4gus Welcome to the forum, I hope you enjoy it here.

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    AlexinPAAlexinPA Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Welcome, sorry they aren't real but still are reminders of Grandma.

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    @Regulated said:

    @dirtygold said:
    Very crude fakes struck from hand engraved dies. They may be contemporary circulating counterfeits.

    I'd guess that the quarter eagle may be a game counter of some sort - I don't think it would fool anyone.

    You are referring to what's called "spiel marke" which is German for play money. Normally the design is similar to real circulating coins but the legends are changed to avoid breaking the anti-counterfeiting laws.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mail4gus.... Welcome aboard.... As stated above, they are not real coins....They are, however, Grandma's coins, so they have family value. If you are interested in coins, hang around here and learn... Lots of good information every day, and the experts here are always ready and willing to help. Cheers, RickO

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    SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,129 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    @mail4gus.... Welcome aboard.... As stated above, they are not real coins....They are, however, Grandma's coins, so they have family value. If you are interested in coins, hang around here and learn... Lots of good information every day, and the experts here are always ready and willing to help. Cheers, RickO

    +1

    Yeah, stick around and keep posting!

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