PR 65RB to PR 67BN. Blue-doo Magic. Voila!
Ronyahski
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PR 65RB
PR 67BN
Some refer to overgraded slabs as Coffins. I like to think of them as Happy Coins.
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It's not magic, it's chemistry!
What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
PR 65RB appeals to me more personally.
Wasn't it Dupont that said "Better Ideas Through Chemistry"?
Pete
That's the strangest looking half eagle I've ever seen !
It's nice I like them it is what it is.
Hoard the keys.
Colors are pretty intense
All I can make out is Italy and Sicily reverse
"Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working" Pablo Picasso
I'm speechless...I need a moment to gather my thoughts. Oh so many negative thoughts (blue Lincolns, coin doctors, gradeflation, fooling professional graders, etc.)
https://pcgs.com/setregistry/showcase/2819
Me too, as does the price.
Collector, occasional seller
I like the CORREDED rim. It helps ID the coin.
The PR65 is more valuable as it more clearly was signed on the reverse by Zorro!
MS70 magic?
LOL, What are you talking about? According to the "Blue Rooster" discussion, these coins were all originally blue. Chemicals just made the color visible by bringing out the coin's original surface!
My 1866 Philly Mint Set
That is crazy. Any chance the image is that wrong? If not, they should have sent it in for regrade and kept the RB, especially if it went up in grade.
I remember that thread . . . I couldn't believe so many people thought that way.
Gobrecht's Engraved Mature Head Large Cent Model
https://www.instagram.com/rexrarities/?hl=en
What I am interested in is why the grade changed so much. Is the blue now hiding something that was seen before or do they grade more conservative on RD and RB than they do BN?
BTW, nice coin, I like it in it's blue suit.
Eye appeal. They liked the way the colors looked better.
Gobrecht's Engraved Mature Head Large Cent Model
https://www.instagram.com/rexrarities/?hl=en
I'm pretty sure know what did this, and it wasn't MS70.
What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
...and your lips are SEALED!
the hit above the t in trust bugs me....
Two completely different fact patterns and you can't use the coins in this post in dissing the arguments made in the Blue Rooster discussion.
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Gobrecht's Engraved Mature Head Large Cent Model
https://www.instagram.com/rexrarities/?hl=en
So it was Better living thru chemistry, DuPont at the 65 Worlds fair in NYC. Peace Roy
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Very insightful comment. Wish I could've seen the coin before and after to have hazarded a guess. I don't see much not to like about the coin in the 65RB picture (other than the rim problem on the obverse), but as we know toning can hide problems. And I do think there is a bit of a tradeoff in grading between numerical grades and color designation, unfortunately.
And maybe it was just grading inconsistency.
But what I am most interested in is why the 67BN got graded and not booted.
It all happened 10 years ago:
PR-65 RB, 2008-3
PR-67 BN, 2008-11
Why rehash in 2018?
OP, Is it up for sale again?
Please share. I know one Dealer in the Southeast who sells a lot of blue toned Indians and Lincolns. All raw of course.
??. Blue Rooster was about uncovering blue toning on untoned coined. Not the case here.
Nope. I was just doing due diligence on a potential acquisition, checking out the population of coins available, and came upon these two coins. I'm not a slab guru like yosclimber, so no way to know when it happened. Still a good lesson.
Not necessarily, I think it was just about creating blue color using MS70 on a coin that had been any other color before. Don't really want to start that discussion all over again though.
Gobrecht's Engraved Mature Head Large Cent Model
https://www.instagram.com/rexrarities/?hl=en
It is a stunning coin in hand. As far as I know this has been in the same hands since 2008,
- Bob -
MPL's - Lincolns of Color
Central Valley Roosevelts
Wrong. Go back and read the post.
I am surprised at the two grade jump.... I do not see the justification for that.... Cheers, RickO
Sharing just means that more people will end up doing it - I don't think anyone here really wants that.
What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
Ronyahski: Could it be some creative photography as a factor. I can't tell if the photos are truviews or not.
@EagleEye
Those are really cool, I looked into these types of Lincoln Matt proofs and they are hard to find
One of the first things I noticed, too, and it really bothers me when seen together with a 67 grade.
Keeper of the VAM Catalog • Professional Coin Imaging • Prime Number Set • World Coins in Early America • British Trade Dollars • Variety Attribution
They are trueviews
http://www.pcgscoinfacts.com/CoinImages.aspx?s=3318
http://www.pcgscoinfacts.com/Coin/Detail/3319
More specifically
https://www.pcgs.com/cert/06837276
https://www.pcgs.com/cert/18398246
Collector, occasional seller
Nevertheless, PCGS has no reason to pull the cert. It's not counterfeit, and I see no obvious mechanical error. They saw the coin in hand and reached their conclusion. Pulling the cert would be like grading the coin from a picture, like what we're trying to do here all the time.
Keeper of the VAM Catalog • Professional Coin Imaging • Prime Number Set • World Coins in Early America • British Trade Dollars • Variety Attribution
Better coins thru chemistry. It's more than a bit depressing. And since that color is due to a quick chemical reaction, how long do you think it will look like that? Wanna bet your money on it?
True, scrolling through the images I noticed several others that have been regraded but not removed. Leaves plenty of opportunity for people to fill holes in their registry sets
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Also that great philosopher Sonny Crockett, Miami Vice, 1986
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