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1925 Armin Hansen "Painter of the West" ..... please share what you know.

ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,588 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited October 23, 2018 10:52AM in U.S. Coin Forum

Do you have some knowledge or story to share? What is the prize for?

The simplicity of the obverse is understatedly BEAUTIFUL <3

It's 55 grams 14K gold medal as 1st Prize by Armin Hansen called "Painter of the West" ..... currently listed on eBay.

"Armin Hansen was a prominent artist from California and known for his maritime style canvases, especially ones with scenes of the coast of Northern California"

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,729 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No idea. Gorgeous piece!

    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
  • BillDugan1959BillDugan1959 Posts: 3,821 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I read the eBay description and I can add little, but might speculate that one of his children owned it until very recently. Very nice item!

  • ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    55 grams 14K gold

    How much do you think is reasonable price for a basically Art Piece?

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice gold medal....I like that one. Cheers, RickO

  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,411 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There has got to be a great story behind that piece and the organization that awarded it.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,411 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Paradisefound said:
    55 grams 14K gold

    How much do you think is reasonable price for a basically Art Piece?

    I'll bet it goes for around bullion since there is apparently not too much history available on it (yet).

  • ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It has to be for a beautiful 2oz-er gold medal like that ....... I really like love that clean design

    @JBK said:
    There has got to be a great story behind that piece and the organization that awarded it.

  • ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Asking $2750 & accepting offer ;) Total gold value I calculated as $1272 :/

    @Paradisefound said:
    It has to be for a beautiful 2oz-er gold medal like that ....... I really like love that clean design

    @JBK said:
    There has got to be a great story behind that piece and the organization that awarded it.

  • coinhackcoinhack Posts: 1,173 ✭✭✭✭

    I believe your gold value is right on the money. $1,272.19 is what I came up with, also. That's about all I would want to pay for it.

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,546 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Armin Hansen seemed to have been a quite accomplished and prolific painter. Here's an article from the Los Angeles Times published on June 7, 1925 detailing the painting that won him the medal:

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
  • ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,588 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 23, 2018 11:29AM

    And with the given historic value $1850? ;)

    @coinhack said:
    I believe your gold value is right on the money. $1,272.19 is what I came up with, also. That's about all I would want to pay for it.

  • BillDugan1959BillDugan1959 Posts: 3,821 ✭✭✭✭✭

    IMHO, at least 50% above melt would NOT be insulting to the seller. It might be possible to learn a little bit about the seller before you contact them - lots of information in the listing and the photo has a name in the watermark.

    If you offer that 50% above melt, well, the final price will likely be a bit higher.

    Ask the seller if any other odd bits of memorabilia or information related to that exhibition came in with the piece. You might get lucky.

    This item is kinda in between numismatic and jewelry. The seller probably expects to make several days' pay on this one.

    If I bought it correctly, I might be tempted to keep it a long time!

  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,411 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Paradisefound said:
    And with the given historic value $1850? ;)

    @coinhack said:
    I believe your gold value is right on the money. $1,272.19 is what I came up with, also. That's about all I would want to pay for it.

    >

    With all due respect to the painter, his family, etc. I think that premium is outrageous. If it were a silver medal worth $25 bucks in silver and they wanted $60, that might be reasonable to the right buyer, but a similar markup on a gold medal is absurd. You should not be expected to pay such a markup on gold for their sentimental or imagined historical value.

    I might be inclined to message the seller and just level with them that you really like it but with no disrespect intended, you can't/won't pay that markup. Let them know you would give it a decent and appreciative home.

    They might just have put that price out there to see if anyone nibbled.

  • coinhackcoinhack Posts: 1,173 ✭✭✭✭

    @Paradisefound said:
    And with the given historic value $1850? ;)

    It is a beautiful and historic piece and if it speaks to you then I can see it being worth that much ($1850).

    I was just being pragmatic when I said paying melt for it would be what I would want to pay. Does it have a significant collector value? If the medal was bronze, would it sell at auction for $100? $200? $300? Are there any auction records? So, the intrinsic value of the gold seems to far outweigh the collector/historic value.

    It is one of a kind. That does make it pretty cool. Like I said, I was just being pragmatic in saying I would not want to pay more than the gold value. In all honesty, I know nothing of the artist or the competition and very little about medals in general so my opinion has no value.

    Shoot, I was just giddy seeing that I had calculated the gold value correctly. B)

  • KkathylKkathyl Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 23, 2018 12:37PM

    listing on ebay

    Half is fair

    Best place to buy !
    Bronze Associate member

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,743 ✭✭✭✭✭

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