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Some contemporary counterfeits and others

snizzlesnizzle Posts: 214 ✭✭✭✭

Here’s a couple I’ve picked up over the years




The coin above is eltroplated I believe



























These where bought some where donated to me for educational purposes.
Just thought i would share.
Tom

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  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,937 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Contemporary can mean "at the same time" as in issued when they were circulating.
    Contemporary can mean "of the present time, modern"

    It's a word that is a mixture in an of itself. Your coins can fit either definition it seems as some are clearly modern and a few might be an age of or near the date.

    bob :)

    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
  • IrishMikeyIrishMikey Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭

    I think the 1796 images are of a Gallery Mint product, where "COPY" has been removed and the piece artificially circulated.

  • KoinickerKoinicker Posts: 289 ✭✭✭

    Only the two cast SLQs and the cast Morgan can be considered contemporary to the time. The remainder are all late 20th and 21st century (modern) reproductions - some with the word 'COPY', as required by law from the Hobby Protection Act, intentionally removed (i.e. because the word 'COPY' was removed these are technically illegal to own!).

  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 9,123 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @AUandAG said:
    Contemporary can mean "at the same time" as in issued when they were circulating.
    Contemporary can mean "of the present time, modern"

    It's a word that is a mixture in an of itself. Your coins can fit either definition it seems as some are clearly modern and a few might be an age of or near the date.

    bob :)

    This is why I prefer the term "vintage counterfeit" for pieces that were struck for the purpose of spending at face value.

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,752 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The first piece, the 1854 with the copyright symbol where the mint mark should be, came on the market in the mid-1970’s. They were offered as necklaces with bezels and chains.

    We got one in at Coin World along with a press release proclaiming that the manufacturer had copyrighted the design, and that henceforth anybody wishing to illustrate an 1854 Kellogg $20 had to pay them a royalty! This included the Redbook and all auction companies.

    We laughed them off. Sales must have been poor as they are rather common without the jewelry settings.

    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have not collected counterfeits... but I do have one Morgan... registered it on a site for that purpose. Cheers, RickO

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 15, 2018 10:17AM

    @dcarr said:

    @AUandAG said:
    Contemporary can mean "at the same time" as in issued when they were circulating.
    Contemporary can mean "of the present time, modern"

    It's a word that is a mixture in an of itself. Your coins can fit either definition it seems as some are clearly modern and a few might be an age of or near the date.

    bob :)

    This is why I prefer the term "vintage counterfeit" for pieces that were struck for the purpose of spending at face value.

    One issue with using that definition generically is that there are recently struck (non-vintage) counterfeits for the purpose of spending at face value, such as Sacagawea dollars (typically in Ecuador) and British pound coins.

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