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"Hurry! TPGs are loose with grades right now!"

messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,835 ✭✭✭✭✭

I've heard people say, "Bad time to submit. Grades are tight right now," or variations of that at a pretty steady pace for a long time, but has anyone ever heard the opposite? I'm not talking about simply a "grades are about right" reaction from a single submission, but general guidance that the timing is right to take advantage of loose grading.

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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 10,008 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Paradisefound said:
    Let me hurry and re-submit my Palladium ;)

    Too late now. Be discreet.

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    messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,835 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Catbert said:
    That info is top secret and if shared, risks the ability for 5 Star members in the circle of trust getting the grades we want. How could you suggest doing such a thing?

    Uh oh. You just outed yourself as a Circle of Trust­™ member. So much for getting your Deluxe 5 Star Executive Presidential Level status renewed.

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    ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What is the admission to be in the Circle of Trust? ;)

    @messydesk said:

    @Catbert said:
    That info is top secret and if shared, risks the ability for 5 Star members in the circle of trust getting the grades we want. How could you suggest doing such a thing?

    Uh oh. You just outed yourself as a Circle of Trust­™ member. So much for getting your Deluxe 5 Star Executive Presidential Level status renewed.

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    messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,835 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Paradisefound said:
    What is the admission to be in the Circle of Trust? ;)

    You'll know once you're a member. Actually, you won't. Not even the members can know. It keeps the rules more secure. Oh, and you probably won't know when you're a member, either, in case you're wondering.

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    dogwooddogwood Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭✭

    Despite my happiness of a super quick turnaround on my 8 coin voucher this past week, the grades I received on my circ Barber Halves were among the most conservative I’ve had in 10+ years.
    Seems VF 20 (ex-NGC cracked) is now F12 and F15 (same) is now VG10.
    It’s almost like 1990 again.
    Thankfully XF40 hasn’t changed.

    But no, not loose with grades.
    And that’s a good thing.

    We're all born MS70. I'm about a Fine 15 right now.
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    thefinnthefinn Posts: 2,657 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Paradisefound said:
    What is the admission to be in the Circle of Trust? ;)

    @messydesk said:

    @Catbert said:
    That info is top secret and if shared, risks the ability for 5 Star members in the circle of trust getting the grades we want. How could you suggest doing such a thing?

    Uh oh. You just outed yourself as a Circle of Trust­™ member. So much for getting your Deluxe 5 Star Executive Presidential Level status renewed.

    The secret handshake and password. Duh. :smiley:

    thefinn
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    ashelandasheland Posts: 24,548 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’m glad they’re being tight as I’m collecting long term right now. I want a solid coin for my money!

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    cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 11,005 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Paradisefound said:
    What is the admission to be in the Circle of Trust? ;)

    @messydesk said:

    @Catbert said:
    That info is top secret and if shared, risks the ability for 5 Star members in the circle of trust getting the grades we want. How could you suggest doing such a thing?

    Uh oh. You just outed yourself as a Circle of Trust­™ member. So much for getting your Deluxe 5 Star Executive Presidential Level status renewed.

    Your first born...

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    cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 11,005 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "Hurry! TPGs are loose with grades right now!"

    @messydesk

    Don't taunt me like that. :D

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    CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 9, 2018 5:34AM

    @Paradisefound said:
    What is the admission to be in the Circle of Trust? ;)

    @messydesk said:

    @Catbert said:
    That info is top secret and if shared, risks the ability for 5 Star members in the circle of trust getting the grades we want. How could you suggest doing such a thing?

    Uh oh. You just outed yourself as a Circle of Trust­™ member. So much for getting your Deluxe 5 Star Executive Presidential Level status renewed.

    It takes years, Paradise. When you start ordering prune juice Margaritas....you will be close!

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Actually, if you want loose grades, then slab them yourself. :D Guaranteed to be at least a grade higher with optional +.....then add a GAG sticker (Good As Gold)...Cheers, RickO

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    ColonialcoinColonialcoin Posts: 927 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Buy the coin, not the holder!! Then price it accordingly.

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 9,896 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm waiting for an undercover investigation and tapes coming out about all these secrets that supposedly are held by those in the inner circle at the grading services with their confidentiality agreements. NGC sends out these emails on grading event galas in posh surroundings. Are there really that many high end coins and collections still ungraded that would fall for this bait?

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    astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The two comments I primarily hear about grading by TPGs are:

    1. Grading is too tight (aka ... I wish my coins graded higher).
    2. They finally got the grade right (aka ... I finally got the grade I wanted).

    Never have I heard collectors or dealers complain that grading was too loose when their coins were being graded! :)

    Numismatist Ordinaire
    See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
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    TomBTomB Posts: 23,223 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is information that is shared between dealers who trust one another and are doing walkthrough grading at shows.

    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

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