Options
1968-D Roosevelt Die Clash. High Grade. Any others?
PocketArt
Posts: 1,335 ✭✭✭✭✭
I was sorting out some mint sets I had accumulated, and was looking for varieties, and high grades when I saw something peculiar on this '68-D Roosevelt. I believe this is a die clash. Appears to be heavy polish lines obliterating fields? Not sure on how common this may be- die clash on devises may be uncommon on Roosevelt's. IDK- leave to experts.
Appears to be polish- could be striations on fields as well.
0
Comments
I have a soft spot for clashed dies. That is really cool and it would be fun to try to find one if there are any with the clash prior to the abrading. For the clash to have reached that deep onto Roosevelt's eye, that thing must have really made a bang...
It sure did. It also looks like a Late Die State. Some of the reverse still shows after the abraiding. Cool coin.
Pete
That is indeed a clashed coin and a nice one, too, and it has been abraded to death in an attempt to remove the clash. Here's my clashed Roosie-rotated between clashes. There's not much to see on the reverse.
This is proof positive that a heavy clash can invade the inner surfaces of a die. When you see Buffs with flea bitten necks, that's another example of it happening.
Pete
And I am also a fan of heavily clashed dies. I have a complete date set of the so-called "Lone Ranger" or "Masked Indian die clashed Buffalos, an example of which is shown below. It is actually two clashes with slight die rotation between clashes.
Man, Ron.........TWO clashes on one die? How long did that die stay in the press? Someone must have stress hardened that sucker real good!
Pete
I am not arguing with anyone, but I just need it explained to me how a clashed die can put details down into the recessed details on the opposite die without flattening the surface down to that lower level?
I am not able to visualize the technical process where that happens.
@errorsoncoins @fredweinberg ? Others?
Thx!
Believe me, JBK..............I don't know myself.
But the proof is very evident.
Pete
Thanks for the interesting comments. My only other thought is that if this isn't a die clash- perhaps a remote chance a mule? From what I researched El Savador 10 centavos minted in Denver in 1968.
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces4266.html
Here's a 1953-S Roosevelt Dime that has some sloppy work done to fix a clash. There is some evidence of the clash left on Roosevelt's nose and he has a fat lower lip. What makes this so interesting is that you can see how some of the internal device surfaces are actually very close to the same plane as the fields. Just look at the profile of Roosevelt and you'll see some of the die file lines.
JBK-Seems counter intuitive but the images don 't lie. The same can be said for the Buffalo nickels with roughness on the neck both in front of and behind the braid. How such things happen I have no clue. Here's an image of the obverse of the 1913 3 1/2 legged Buffalo nickel. This coin exists with this heavily clashed obverse die and a normal four legged reverse as well.
Here is one of my favorite clashed coins I have in my collection. The reverse of this 1948-S Washington Quarter shows nearly the entire outline of Washington's profile from the obverse. This is a tough one to photograph in a way that shows it the way it looks in hand. The clash on this one was spectacular!
Here's an overlay:
Pete
Man-the color on that '48-S is outstanding jtlee. That's a beauty!
That is a really interesting dime... that clash and die polish lines are unmistakable... Great specimen.... Cheers, RickO