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MS66 common saint at PCGS price that looks like MS67 except for reverse...

ReadyFireAimReadyFireAim Posts: 1,860 ✭✭✭✭✭

Do you see a rim issue or is that the light???
Also...What is up with the edge at 12:00?

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    earlycoinsearlycoins Posts: 282 ✭✭✭

    That would presumably be a star on the edge.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would be more concerned with the edge at 3:00.....Cheers, RickO

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    ReadyFireAimReadyFireAim Posts: 1,860 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm not sure why 1927 & 1928 MS66 coins are trading over PCGS but this is the lowest price I've seen in a long time.
    It sure looks clean except for maybe the edge

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    Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 13, 2018 1:27AM

    I agree that the rim looks a little banged up, but It's a nice coin !!! :)

    Timbuk3
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    ReadyFireAimReadyFireAim Posts: 1,860 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've been thinking about this one for a few days but I can't quite pull the trigger.
    The price is $2,175 which, I think is a historical PCGS low.
    If anyone is interested, it is here.

    https://www.mintstategold.com/us-20-saint-gaudens-1927-pcgs-ms66-13149.html?utm_source=collectors&utm_medium=listings&utm_campaign=products

    (I'm not affiliated with Mint State Gold)

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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 25,230 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The photos are overexposed. Overexposed photos can hide small defects. The coin is probably correctly graded. Also, there is no "sticker", so, if it had been submitted to a "sticker" company they may have thought it in the lower end of the grade. It is a coin I would want to examine in-hand before considering it for purchase.

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    ReadyFireAimReadyFireAim Posts: 1,860 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @291fifth said:
    ... It is a coin I would want to examine in-hand before considering it for purchase.

    Yep...Me too.
    The above coin probably got knocked down a + or full grade because of the rim.
    I'm guessing this coin probably lost a + on eye appeal for the carbon spots.

    I'm tempted by coins like both of these but should probably leave them alone.

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    ElmerFusterpuckElmerFusterpuck Posts: 4,915 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That 1927 does look very nice, but those overly bright pics make me want to see it in hand. The 1925 - too bad about those copper spots. Yes MS Saints as type are very common, but it pays to be very picky. Far to many ugly 65's and 66's out there - and those grades should never be viewed as 'ugly'.

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    metalmeistermetalmeister Posts: 4,633 ✭✭✭✭✭

    66 Saints sure are nice! Too cheap!

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    ashelandasheland Posts: 24,548 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 7,170 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've bought a few coins from Stuppler and had no issue. Their photos are a bit funky though, as if they are scans.

    Collector, occasional seller

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    WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 10,395 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ChrisH821 said:
    I've bought a few coins from Stuppler and had no issue. Their photos are a bit funky though, as if they are scans.

    I don't like their photos , at all, and their prices are at retail ++. I bought one coin from them. I paid A LOT for it but it is definitely 'PQ' as they describe.

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    MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,789 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Generally speaking, the market punishes coin for copper spots far more than it should. But in this case, a discount seems appropriate.

    Andy Lustig

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    ReadyFireAimReadyFireAim Posts: 1,860 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:
    I have a Saint that looks like a 70 - except for the reverse....and the obverse.

    I guess what I'm questioning is a single issue with a coin that makes it a MS66 rather than a higher grade.
    Like the bag hit to the face of this 1928

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/112934605757

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 43,126 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ReadyFireAim said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    I have a Saint that looks like a 70 - except for the reverse....and the obverse.

    I guess what I'm questioning is a single issue with a coin that makes it a MS66 rather than a higher grade.
    Like the bag hit to the face of this 1928

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/112934605757

    It was just a joke. :smile:

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    Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 10,067 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 14, 2018 3:52AM

    Looks like a nice 66. MS 70 is perfect.

    It’s about a $2300 Coin. I would not buy it in hope of 67.

    My highest offer from my table on bourse prolly $1650.

    Investor
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    joebb21joebb21 Posts: 4,811 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Walkerfan said:

    @ChrisH821 said:
    I've bought a few coins from Stuppler and had no issue. Their photos are a bit funky though, as if they are scans.

    I don't like their photos , at all, and their prices are at retail ++. I bought one coin from them. I paid A LOT for it but it is definitely 'PQ' as they describe.

    Try calling them and asking how much they would pay for that coin back. I think you are going to learn a very big lesson as to how much faith they put in their own sticker

    may the fonz be with you...always...
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    ReadyFireAimReadyFireAim Posts: 1,860 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Cougar1978 said:
    Looks like a nice 66. MS 70 is perfect.

    It’s about a $2300 Coin. I would not buy it in hope of 67.

    $2300 was my offer on the 1925 but no luck.

    I guess my question should have been...Would you rather buy a properly graded coin with a bunch of tiny imperfections or one big flaw that makes it a MS66?

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    ReadyFireAimReadyFireAim Posts: 1,860 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ahhh...crap, I bought it.
    Sorry folks
    I know you gave me good advice but what can I say...
    It was pretty.

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    ReadyFireAimReadyFireAim Posts: 1,860 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Don't hate.
    It brings up the value of your coin o:)

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    ReadyFireAimReadyFireAim Posts: 1,860 ✭✭✭✭✭

    How do I edit?
    It was APMEX not Mint State purchase

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    georgiacop50georgiacop50 Posts: 2,909 ✭✭✭✭

    If you bought from APMEX , odds are you will receive a different coin. They use stock photos as a rule...

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    ReadyFireAimReadyFireAim Posts: 1,860 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 17, 2018 4:21AM

    @georgiacop50 said:
    If you bought from APMEX , odds are you will receive a different coin. They use stock photos as a rule...

    This will be my 4th purchase from APMEX and it has never happened before.
    I'm quite happy with their customer service.
    This is the coin I bought for $2,695 (MS66)

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