Huge Major Struck Thru Sacagawea Error Coin
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Straight Up, I tried to get this certified at the February Long Beach show but was told by two TPG's that they would only label this coin as a struck thru error.
I really wanted a more detailed description as it clearly is struck thru something.
Please give me and this forum what you think this coin was struck thru. Looking for 90% confirmation, LOL.
I am going to bring this to Long Beach Tomorrow, is there anything I can say or show to get a more accurate label?
This came in a Mint Set, super high grade, I just cut it out to photograph and submit.
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Nothing on the rim? Do you know why?
Perhaps no pressure.
Perhaps a piece of yarn.
Looks like twine. Ask them to put: "Struck Thru Fiber."
Love the half 'stache.
Looks like packaging twine to me. Definitely fibrous.
Twine works for that with the fibers. Nice substantial error. Edit to say maybe a Cheerio, check the reverse. Kidding not in the Cheerios holder.
I see me some fibers, lots of fibers, nice strike thru. I don't think more magnification is gonna change that finding. Peace Roy
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Could have been struck through grease that was shaped like twine
If I were labeling it in a 2x2, I would call it struck through twine. I guess I can convince myself I can make a case for something twisted/braided and fibrous:
Now... if you can get some sort of chemical analysis done, you may convince them to lable it a "Hemp Dollar"
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Where's the flower that is supposed to be in her hair?
...And it is definitely not wire as there are many single loose strike thru's all over the coin close to the major furrow.
The flower girl is officially resides in Hawaii
fine twisted wire rope?
Anyone have specific knowledge of what materials may be found in the proximity of the presses?
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I know you are looking for a specific "Struck Thru" - but excluding embedded items (ie - proof) how do they decide exactly how to label things.
Sure, 99% of the slabs are simply "Struck Thru" but I've seen:
Struck Thru Thread - OK, who decided it was a thread and not body hair or a pine needle, or a bristle, or anything else?
Struck Thru Grease - OK, that seems generic enough, but who decided it was exactly grease? - What about an overheated worker who puked on the setup, or water, or a filled die, or oil, Vaseline, wax, etc
Struck Thru Cloth - OK, seemingly generic, but who decided it was cloth? What if it was a burlap bag, or a napkin
Struck Thru Wire - Same thing, without the wire, what if it was a nylon bristle, or a rat bone, a hair pin, or who knows what else.
OK, best I can think of, but serious question - what guidelines, and who makes that final call for how to label it - what "Proof" do you need?
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I have not been on the coining floor of a US mint in over thirteen years. The last time I was inside the mint in Philadelphia was in 2012 and from the visitors gallery it sure looked a lot cleaner! Several members here have made more recent trips to the floor.
No loss for me as the first time I saw a horizontal press in operation, I lost all interest! I prefer our "vintage" coins made the old fashion way.
I wonder if "they" would go for, "Struck Thru Braided Fiber" ???
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Do they let mint workers wear hair scrunchies or bracelets?
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An earthworm?
Struck threw yarn
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If I were writing up an ANACS photo certificate label I would probably say “struck through string,” but I would not object to “twine.”
It would have to be from a rag used to wipe the die surface
Call it Pippi Longstocking Variety
Sounds like you want more details than the obvious twine/rope. I will give it a try.
Struck thru southern peruvian hemp twine used by the local coca leaf girls to tie their sandals. The hemp was clearly picked by hand in the mid 70s. Made its way to the US by way of immigration smuggling boat through the gulf of mexico.
Actually, that is what I am looking for, and thank you for pointing out what is obvious.
How do I convince the obvious to be labeled by a TPG?
Find that sandal.
String or a thread of fiber.
"Struck through thread", or "struck through fiber" would be acceptable terminology I would think.
Could be a shoe lace.
Could be Tommy Bahama. Look for the mustard residue.
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Metal rope struck on Obv ?
Struck through Thai-stick. "you know, that stuff that's tied to a stick".
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How bout jute? Or that cheap white string that they use at the bakery to tie the box of turnovers. Peace Roy
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yup, looks like struck thru string or rope.
Try ANACS, they are goods with this stuff
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Not my coin but similar ?
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How about 'Struck through woven fiber'.....Cheers, RickO
Is it a "Wounded Eagle" variety?
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I would really like Fred's opinion of this coin and how he would label the error based on the close-up photos.
Good morning all I’m at the Long Beach coin show – been following this thread I would probably put on the label “struck through thread obv”It’s Friday morning if you have a point at the Shell feel free to come by my table 833 take a look at it and even write it up for you, if you’d like
Thank you, Fred.
I will bring the coin to you on Saturday morning and another miss annealed Bison error we talked about a few months back.
I really appreciate it.
If you have the time, I would like to buy you lunch to talk shop. I understand that you may be busy or have previous plans and no worries if able to.
Have a great show, Fred.
See you on Saturday, Chris
When you see the coin in hand you, the thickness is bigger than thread IMO, more like string.
That's another cool one
Steve
I agree that it is bigger than thread, which is too bad, because otherwise this would be the "thread thread!"
Unfortunately I won’t be here Saturday morning – so I won’t be able to see the coin – if you submit it I will see it in a week or two Dash I don’t think I would call it struck through string– I think thread is more generic since we don’t know exactly what it was struck through – sorry I’ll miss you tomorrow morning
Fred, I was going to come today, but I am getting a big coin in the mail today and want to submit it tomorrow.
One more question, Can I send this coin in as well? I did get it out of a mint bag myself. What is your opinion about the designation of this coin from the photo?
I already have these two with the exact same color ....
That's a cool error!
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She got "Deflowered" by the twine.
Pete
Trying to change your mind. Tom beat me to it and I agree. When I think of "thread," it comes on a spool and is thin. This is Not Thread. It is thick and twisted as evidenced by the way the fibers that make up the piece have "spun" off the main body. If it is called "fiber," I think it covers everything but I prefer "twine."
None of us were there but in some cases the characteristic pattern of the strike through helps ID the substance. I don't believe that anyone who has handled a piece of twine would object to that designation and best of all...the submitter would be very happy with the TPGS conclusion.