ANSWERED: What are you seeing on this part of the coin's surface? ANSWERED.

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Insider2
Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited August 25, 2018 7:25PM in U.S. Coin Forum

I know the answers. Take a guess? You only have one image so it is going to be REALLY CHALLENGING. >:)

There are four, long, mostly horizontal lines across the surface of this coin:

I'll label the top one "A."
The next down "B."
The next down "C."
and the bottom one "D."

FIRST ROUND: For now you'll need to think of the things that could leave a "scratch-like" line on a coin. There are at lest four that come quickly to mind. Then You'll need to guess which of these made the "line." Reply with the letters that match your guess.

Example:

A. scratch
B. scratch
C ?.
D. scratch

ONLY THOSE who reply in round one with a guess are eligible to win the prize at the end. All members are encouraged to guess anytime.

SECOND ROUND: Tomorrow, I'll post magnified images of each line and you'll get a chance to guess again and can change your original guess. Answer in the same way:

A. ?
B. strike thru.
C. scratch
D. scratch.

I reserve the right to add clues. My answers are final and the winner will be decided using them alone.

This is not going to be easy so take a guess anyway. No one but you and I care if you are correct.

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  • bolivarshagnasty
    bolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,359 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Can we get rpm'srpm's 3d version of this surface? :*

  • TurboSnail
    TurboSnail Posts: 1,669 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 23, 2018 4:30PM
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    A die crack
    B die crack
    C scratch
    D scratch.

  • jtlee321
    jtlee321 Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    A. Die Scratch
    B. Die Scratch
    C. Surface Scratch
    D. Surface Scratch

  • MacCrimmon
    MacCrimmon Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭
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    A. knife cut
    B. knife cut
    C. scratch
    D. scratch

  • Jinx86
    Jinx86 Posts: 3,729 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    A Die Crack
    B Die Crack
    C Scratch
    D Die Crack

  • Smudge
    Smudge Posts: 10,001 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @TurboSnail said:
    A die crack
    B die crack
    C scratch
    D scratch.

    +1.

  • gonzer
    gonzer Posts: 3,091 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Looks like the Nazca Plains....a) die break, b) die polish scratch, c) surface scratch, d) surface scratch

  • Timbuk3
    Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    A die crack
    B die crack
    C scratch
    D scratch

    Timbuk3
  • jesbroken
    jesbroken Posts: 11,252 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 24, 2018 4:18AM
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    a) die scratch
    b) die scratch
    c) surface scratch
    d) die scratch


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  • GRANDAM
    GRANDAM Posts: 8,785 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    A = Die Crack
    B = Die Crack
    C = STRIKE THRU
    D = Scratch

    GrandAm :)
  • TommyType
    TommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 23, 2018 4:55PM
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    a) Die Line (I don't want to call it a scratch....)
    b) Die Line
    c) Scratch on coin
    d) Not entirely sure....But I'll call it a die line.

    (Note: I changed my answer on d) moments after first posting. So shoot me. ;)

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  • ECHOES
    ECHOES Posts: 2,974 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @TurboSnail said:
    A die crack
    B die crack
    C scratch
    D scratch.

    +1

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  • DennisH
    DennisH Posts: 14,041 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    a. die polishing line/gouge
    b. die polishing line/gouge
    c. scratch
    d. die polishing line/gouge

    When in doubt, don't.
  • TurboSnail
    TurboSnail Posts: 1,669 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    For the record, I edited my post from #1-4 to A-D.

  • Regulated
    Regulated Posts: 2,994 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    A. Die Line
    B. Die Crack
    C. Scratch
    D. Die Scratch.


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  • cmerlo1
    cmerlo1 Posts: 8,075 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 24, 2018 1:56PM
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    a. Die Polish/Die Gouge
    b. Die Crack
    c. Strike-Thru
    d. Die Crack

    Edited:

    a. Die Polish/Die Gouge
    b. Die Polish/Die Gouge
    c. Strike-Thru
    d. Scratch

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  • Namvet69
    Namvet69 Posts: 9,423 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    a. Die crack
    B. Die crack
    C. Strike thru
    D. Pmd scratch

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  • 1Mike1
    1Mike1 Posts: 4,445 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 24, 2018 1:36AM
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    Die crack
    scratch
    scratch
    scratch

    Modified answer because you say there are no die cracks.
    Strike through
    Strike through
    Scratch
    Scratch

    Discoloration looks like someone was playing doctor. Maybe they're all scratches that had been filled with bondo. :D

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  • philographer
    philographer Posts: 1,383 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Die crack
    Die crack
    Staple scratch
    Die crack

    He who knows he has enough is rich.

  • RogerB
    RogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    It's a trick question. Here are the answers I got from a Washington stable genius thingy.

    A. Boeing 767 contrail at 11,000 meters altitude
    B. Slime trail of a common pulmonate land gastropod (garden slug)
    C. Collapsed gopher tunnel on the Bushwood Country Club golf course
    D. Rille on the surface of minor planet 4 Vesta, or
    E. Fingernails scraping across a chalk board on a dark and stormy night

    :)

  • dcarr
    dcarr Posts: 10,257 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 23, 2018 7:24PM
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    I see:

    The left central portion of the reverse of a U.S. Bicentennial half dollar;
    three long die cracks (A, B, D);
    one long thin struck-through sliver (C);
    and some shmutz that resembles "putty".

  • dcarr
    dcarr Posts: 10,257 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 23, 2018 7:34PM
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    PS:
    The lines are generally vertical on the coin, not horizontal.

  • AUandAG
    AUandAG Posts: 25,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Die scratch
    Die scratch
    PMD scratch
    PMD scratch

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  • pbj
    pbj Posts: 93 ✭✭✭
    edited August 23, 2018 7:48PM
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    A: die crack
    B: die crack
    C: scratch on coin surface
    D: strike through

    Lol... A capital D with a colon creates an emoji... So I'll leave it for the last answer.

  • DIMEMAN
    DIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @TurboSnail said:
    A die crack
    B die crack
    C scratch
    D scratch.

    +1

  • Insider2
    Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @dcarr said:
    PS:
    The lines are generally vertical on the coin, not horizontal.

    The coin is rotated to in order to have the lines horizontal.

    FIRST CLUE: Die breaks on a coin are raised. Even on the very rare occasions when they appear to be straight, at this level of magnification they are squiggly. Therefore, there are NO DIE BREAKS in this image.
    Take some time to edit your answers if you wish. Everyone who guesses is going into the next round no matter how many correct answers you had. There were correct answers from some members.

    This is a tough quiz and so far I >:) have given you very little to view in a bad image. :(

  • Batman23
    Batman23 Posts: 5,473 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    A. Die Scratch
    B. Die Scratch
    C. Die Scratch
    D. Die Scratch

  • slider23
    slider23 Posts: 681 ✭✭✭✭
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    A- die crack
    B- die polish
    C- scratch
    D- die polish

  • JeffersonFrog
    JeffersonFrog Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    A - strike thru
    B - Die crack
    C - Die crack
    D - surface scratch

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    Tommy

  • SurfinxHI
    SurfinxHI Posts: 2,705 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    A die scratch
    B die polish
    C staple scratch
    D metal scratch (unspecified, but older than C)

    Dead people tell interesting tales.
  • Paradisefound
    Paradisefound Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 23, 2018 10:42PM
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    This is way beyond my curve :# and I better not guess to win the prize :)

  • mvs7
    mvs7 Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    A - die polish line
    B - die polish line
    C - scratch
    D - die polish line

  • braddick
    braddick Posts: 25,183 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    A. Die Scratch
    B. Die Scratch
    C. Knife cut Scratch
    D. Surface Scratch

  • dcarr
    dcarr Posts: 10,257 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 24, 2018 12:50AM
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    (A) Die crack.
    (B) Die crack.
    (C) Bag mark (impact from rim of another coin).
    (D) Die crack.

    (I changed my opinion on C).

    I believe that A, B, and D are die cracks and not die scratches.
    Die scratches are usually straighter and tend to be parallel, and they rarely form a perfect confluence like that seen here:

  • 291fifth
    291fifth Posts: 25,218 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    A, B & D are all connected at some point and are struck on (and stuck on) thin metal shavings.
    C is post mint damage scratch.

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  • Namvet69
    Namvet69 Posts: 9,423 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    A. Die crack
    B. Die crack
    C. Scratch
    D. Die crack

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  • Treashunt
    Treashunt Posts: 6,748 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    A die crack
    B die crack
    C scratch
    D scratch.

    Frank

    BHNC #203

  • 1630Boston
    1630Boston Posts: 14,157 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    a. die polish/gouge
    b. die polish/gouge
    c. coin scratch
    d. coin scratch

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    Bad transactions with : nobody to date

  • jesbroken
    jesbroken Posts: 11,252 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 24, 2018 4:42AM
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    Rather than edit my post I'll re write it here so as to compare to my original guess. I allowed the shadows to finally make my guess, right or wrong. Very interesting the longer I look at them. Thanks for the poser.
    A) Coin scratch
    B) Die scratch
    C) Die scratch
    D) Die scratch


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  • astrorat
    astrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    A. Die crack
    B. Die crack
    C. Scratch
    D. Die crack

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  • BigMoose
    BigMoose Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭
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    A--die polish
    B--die polish
    C--scratch
    D--die polish

    TomT-1794

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  • dlmtorts
    dlmtorts Posts: 747 ✭✭✭
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    A. Die defect - raised line. I can’t differentiate between die crack/ die scratch/ die polish.
    B. Same as A.
    C. PMD - Scratch on coin.
    D. Same as C.

  • dpoole
    dpoole Posts: 5,940 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 24, 2018 5:57AM
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    I sure looks like the top two are raised (such that the lines are related to die damage) and the lower two are incused (which means PMD or, less likely, something foreign on the die surface). SO...

    A. die crack
    B. die crack
    C. scratch
    D. scratch

    I gather from your comments so far that that's wrong, so I'm anxiously awaiting The Truth.

    Incidentally, Insider, did you get my PM?

  • CaptHenway
    CaptHenway Posts: 34,164 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Chemtrails!

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  • Insider2
    Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 24, 2018 8:31AM
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    DO NOT USE THE ROTATED IMAGE ABOVE FOR ANYTHING. THE ORIGINAL IS BELOW

  • Insider2
    Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    THIS IS THE ROUND THAT COUNTS:

    All who posted above are entered for the prize to be determined. Please read the OP and the clue already given.

    The following image is the original:

    These are the magnified images of the lines from top to bottom:

    THERE ARE NO DIE BREAKS IN THE IMAGES!

  • RogerB
    RogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 24, 2018 8:36AM
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    OK....I was wrong. They are all I-10 in Louisiana after rain or fog. Or maybe:
    Die scratch
    Die scratch
    PMD staple scratch
    PMD scratch (poison ivy?)

  • Paradisefound
    Paradisefound Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    THERE ARE NO DIE BREAKS IN THE IMAGES!
    filled up scratch
    filled up scratch
    scratch
    scratch

  • 1630Boston
    1630Boston Posts: 14,157 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    a. die polish/gouge
    b. die polish/gouge
    c. coin scratch
    d. coin scratch

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    Bad transactions with : nobody to date

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