New R5 bust quarter
Desert Moon
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Hi Folks,
Over the summer I obtained my 58th die marriage for bust quarters, an 1837 B5 in MS62 CAC. R5 means 46 to 60 known and is agreed on in the 2 BQ books - Rea et al., and Tompkins. In the Rea et al. Bust Quarter book, this would be tied for 4th in the condition census. It was in a P58 holder back in the day, so I paid alot more for it in the 62/CAC than an earlier offering in the P58 holder. I did so because of its rarity, the fact that you can see why it was regraded 62 and got the CAC when you see the unbroken luster bands when rotating under the light, and the eye appeal. Heck I wish all of my BQ die marriages were this rare and this eye appealing. The images are below. The first image is with the camera lens parallel to the coin with lights next to the lens but not overlapping - the classic shot. It looks very nice but you don't see the luster well. If I only posted these images, I am sure I would get alot of 'SH that has no luster it is a 58'. But. Old MS coins with very little to no dipping with a thick tone look this way - a look CAC loves and you have to have the light on top of it in the slab to see the luster bands. This is where shooting raw can be an advantage and why Phil Arnold is able to capture coins like this in his images so well.
This second set of images below is with the coin tilted towards a single light, that you see overlaps with the coin. These images have not been adjusted at all except to sharpen them to bring some of the portion of each side to better focus. Now you see the rich color this coin has, and you begin to see the luster. If I had the technique, I am sure I could do better, but for now until I learn how to capture the luster on surfaces like this (need to study the Goodman book on this and start working on implementing the techniques) that is what I can show.
This die marriage comes in two states, one with no die clashes and one with the reverse bars at the ear. This one has no clashes, and given that when under the light the reverse looks almost proof like in luster under the toning, I suspect it was an early strike. All of them are known to have incomplete stars so that is not inconsistent with this being an early strike. But there probably was not very many struck given its rarity, maybe they are all like that......
Edited to add: Oops, I just found a description of this coin on Heritage when it was auctioned off in 2014. Alas, they mention 'Clash marks appear across the obverse'. Indeed, so it is not the early die state . I must be going blind..........
Best, SH
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Wow SH, wow.
Y’know, I’ve tried to buy this coin 2 times and failed. When it comes time to sell, you know where to find me
Beautiful coin. I think the classic shot shows it perfectly. Not a 58! The grading gods must have been mad at CRO that day.
Do you think it’s right as a 62?
When I saw the title, I thought at first you had bought the 1805 B5 that just sold at HA...
I think it is a 62, it is not a 61 as the surfaces are not that bad, and it won't go 63 9 out of 10 times. So 62 seems like the right grade and CAC thought so.
the '05 B5 was evaluated for me by a dealer in hand before the auction. After his eval, I decided to pass. But it certainly was on my list...... I will just have to find the right one.
Best, Al
Purdy.
regardless of rarity, that is a really attractive coin!
I like it!
- Jim
Nice coins!
(With all those marriages, you should open a wedding chapel in Vegas...)
Bravo!
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That coin has it all. Great purchase!
Wow! Impressive coin! Congratulations!
Very impressive. Congrats.
Great coin. Thanks for sharing.
Very nice SH! A cool example!
Btw, I was underbidder on 05 B-5........
Enjoyed numismatic conversations with Eric P. Newman, Dave Akers, Jules Reiver, David Davis, Russ Logan, John McCloskey, Kirk Gorman, W. David Perkins...
I'm happy to see my old coin go to such a great home with someone with a passion for bust quarters. My upgrade is an PCGS MS65 CAC example ex-Eliasberg that is a candidate for finest known. The eye appeal is similar to your coin, despite its higher technical grade. I was informed that you own my prior 1818 B-9 as well. Congratulations for building such a wonderful set and i iook forward to following your progress.
Nice looking coin! I remember that attractive example of the 1837 B-5 from a while ago.
Congrats - 1TwoBits
This coin has a nice combination of eye appeal and rarity, and you must have been thrilled to add it to your collection. Congrats!
'> @1Bustcollector said:
That was a nice coin for sure, but the dealer who looked at it for me identified one thing about it that I would have had to see myself before I bid. I think the price it went for was reasonable tho'.
Best, SH
@spacehayduke ....Nice coin and awesome photography..... However, I do not see clash marks on the obverse... even in the magnified view... I must be blind as well... Cheers, RickO
“That was a nice coin for sure, but the dealer who looked at it for me identified one thing about it that I would have had to see myself before I bid. I think the price it went for was reasonable tho”
I do agree/understand with your statement SH......
Enjoyed numismatic conversations with Eric P. Newman, Dave Akers, Jules Reiver, David Davis, Russ Logan, John McCloskey, Kirk Gorman, W. David Perkins...
They are very subtle and my images don't show them well. Not obvious which is why I missed them until I looked at the Heritage images and read their description.
Best, SH
58 times at the alter, what a man and nice looking coin.
Very nice pickup! I love those Bust Quarters! Wish I had some.
'Dime'man changes to 'Quarter'man? You got your start with the Washies so I'd say go for it...........
Best, SH