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How would you transport an 1804 dollar?
brianc1959
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Or any other ultra-rare multi-million$ coin, for that matter. So, you win the big auction, then what? How do you get it delivered to your place? Fedex?, USPS?, armored truck with hired guards?, fly out and pick it up yourself with an entourage of heavily armed henchmen? (or maybe Minions?).
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I would send Paradisefound to pick it up. Nobody would mess with her!
Second choice would be Brinks. Third, registered mail.
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Famous coins aren't usually targeted by thieves since they are too hard to fence. I would pick it up in person and transport it myself. The important thing is to keep ownership and possession secret. If they don't know you have it, they won't be trying to steal it from you.
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Pockets. Pockets, flip-flops, and a brief case among other things is how a $1.9 Million 1894-S dime was transported as described in this article from 2007.
The article also had an interesting discussion about it here on these boards. The link to the article is no longer valid, but I found it on the Internet Archive.
Discussion on this forum about the article:
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/599026/dealer-flies-with-1-9-million-dollar-dime/p1
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Article as found on the Internet Archive:
'I didn't eat and I didn't sleep'
Coin dealer flies dime worth $1.9 million to NYC
https://web.archive.org/web/20070728122722/sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/07/27/DIME.TMP
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How would you transport an 1804 dollar?
The same way that I would transport an IKE Dollar...........nonchalantly
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Uber.
In my left front pants pocket, because I carry my keys in the right pocket.
I would transport it personally... I trust my own security implicitly. Cheers, RickO
If I was bidding on it I would be at the auction anyway and then bring it home with me.
I would place the slab in a single slab neoprene velcro case to get trough TSA without drawing any attention to it.
I would just carry the coin on me in a clothing pocket.
As I wouldn't get paranoid to the point of resorting to smuggling it home using a prison method.
$4k-$200k are sent all the time USPS Express Mail. Most major dealers have this limit
An 1804$1 would be sent Brinks most likely
I imagine that would impart some unusual toning.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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Take a #10 envelope, drop the coin in, seal it and mail it.
That's a great article - thanks. Now I know to be suspicious of anybody wearing flip flops in first class!
Best to avoid Beets and Corn
The unique 1870-S Half Dime was carried on a plane to be authenticated in DC. At the time, its value had not been "pinned down."
As for transporting valuables, Registered mail is often used.
Back when I recovered the Linderman 1804 dollar, I carried it around in my shirt pocket (bagged and flipped of course) for a few hours before the FBI agent arrived from Denver. I wanted to know exactly where it was.
Later when we were in Rochette's office giving our statements I had it out and was holding it by the edge gazing upon it for a while, and when I was done I put it back in the baggie and the flip and put it back in my shirt pocket. A few minutes later the agent turned towards me and started to ask a question about the coin when he suddenly noticed that it was nowhere to be seen! The man absolutely panicked! "Where's the coin?" he half screamed. I calmly reached into my pocket and handed it to him. He said, incredulously, "You'd put a coin like that in your pocket? I said "Why not? It's the safest way to hold it." He shook his head and we went on.
Nonchalance is important. While I was working for Harlan Berk I had a lady come in one day and ask where she could hire an armored car. I asked what for, and she said that she had 333 one ounce gold maple leafs (her third of an inheritance) in a safety deposit box at a bank three block away. She wanted to hire the armored car to bring them over to sell them. I said you don't need that, grabbed my battered but trusty Samsonite briefcase, and walked over to the bank with her. We got the coins, I carried them back to the coin shop in my most nonchalant manner, and wrote her a check.
You'd need a courier if you really want safety. No one is going to insure for that amount at any of the normal shippers. And I hate to think what a private insurance company would charge to do it.
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@CaptHenway said: Nonchalance is important. While I was working for Harlan Berk I had a lady come in one day and ask where she could hire an armored car. I asked what for, and she said that she had 333 one ounce gold maple leafs (her third of an inheritance) in a safety deposit box at a bank three block away. She wanted to hire the armored car to bring them over to sell them. I said you don't need that, grabbed my battered but trusty Samsonite briefcase, and walked over to the bank with her. We got the coins, I carried them back to the coin shop in my most nonchalant manner, and wrote her a check.
I agree that nonchalance is important, but didn't the briefcase start getting heavier and heavier on your walk back to the office?
I knew it would happen.
Where do you have it delivered? A Brinks truck showing up at my house or office would have lots of people talking.
Bank vault.
FWIW, after the trial up in Denver there was a meeting up at the U.S. Attorney's Office. The U.S. Attorney handed the coin to Mr. DuPont's lawyer and got a receipt. The lawyer handed the coin to Rochette on loan to the ANA and got a receipt. Rochette packaged the coin up and handed it to a representative of the armored car company we used to transport our outgoing mail to the post office and got a receipt. The armored car company transported it the 65 miles to ANA Headquarters. When they delivered it to Headquarters the next day I signed for it.
Personally, I would have just stuck it in my shirt pocket and driven it down!
The ANA is known for "blowing" money. However, best to be safe.
Here's one Tom. While at the Certification Service in DC, I took a taxi to Arlington with an EXHR in my pocket to show a consultant. A few days later, Chuck and I walked over and back from the Smithsonian with the coin.
I think this would be more fun than the 1804 $1
For single, high-value coins like that, we've used a private security company. It's easier to schedule than Brinks, and is generally a little cheaper.
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Shirt pocket here. I sold a 10K coin on behalf of a friend. Carried it in the shirt pocket and it never bothered me one bit.
I was more worried about it falling out while tightening my shoe lace.
Exactly as others have said, don’t let anyone know what you’re carrying to begin with.
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I don't think this is our Hawaiian friend. Her shoulders look different.
This is how I do it.
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She is my sister and she can take you to a brink...
@Paradisefound said: "She is my sister and she can take you to a brink...
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See, I knew it was not you.
To stay on subject, is she also a coin collector?
OH MY GOODNESS!!!!!
She rather hula and model for Reese occasionally...told me I could've gone to Borabora twice a year for what I spent on coins.
I'd use this one to get it there:
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Black box. Delivered by a girl.
You'd get borabora'ed after a week.
What 1804 dollar?
@Paradisefound
Let your sister know that in many, many decades when she can no longer hula or model you will STILL have your coins and your experiences finding and sharing them for pleasure!
But don't.... DO NOT.... use that in a Match.com profile.
AND, fly private jet so as to avoid TSA!
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running like a water color in the rain...."
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We don't need the exposure of Match.com as yet
Pleasure is abundant around here .... coins or not 
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Ship it in a box prominently labeled, in large red letters, "Fruit Cake". (Nobody likes fruit cake)…..