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claychaserclaychaser Posts: 4,406 ✭✭✭✭
edited July 18, 2018 12:41PM in U.S. Coin Forum

~~~~For the ANA in August. I like the idea of using light rail, but is it safe?



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  • earlycoinsearlycoins Posts: 282 ✭✭✭

    Carrying a box of 20?

    I’d probably not.

  • CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,384 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Never been to Philly, but I'd invest in a cab instead based on my rail/subway rides in other large cities if you are carrying anything of value.

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  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @claychaser said:
    For the ANA in August. I like the idea of using light rail, but is it safe?

    The short answer is no. Take a cab.

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  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,857 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 17, 2018 4:11PM

    Not Philly but I watched a bunch of kids execute a bump and grab on the train in Paris. It’s pretty easy to watch one kid. A pack of 8 of them is harder.

  • Desert MoonDesert Moon Posts: 5,992 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BryceM said:
    Not Philly but I watched a bunch of kids execute a bump and grab on the train in Paris. It’s pretty easy to watch one kid. A pack of 8 of them is harder.

    I saw that happen in Paris on the Pont des Arts next to the Louve. There was an undercover cop that grabbed the kid and got the cell phone back to the woman. Pays to watch your stuff and hold on tight in any city.

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  • GluggoGluggo Posts: 3,566 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 17, 2018 4:18PM

    Do you have a security detail? You could ask the Police and if you tell them your carrying valuable coins they (police) might chose to rob you. Crime is ramped and law enforcement is on the take in Philly. Take a cab. Don’t talk to the cabby either. Or just tell them where your going the address and Don’t tell the Cabby your going to a Coin Show or the cabby might roll you. Do you really have to go?

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  • KkathylKkathyl Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I lived in Pittsburg for 15 years. Yeah opposite side of state (nicer) but I have been cornered by stranger who insisted I give him my monthly bus pass. It was not fun. Criminals might know about the show stop so agree with others. Take a cab

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  • divecchiadivecchia Posts: 6,688 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree with @FadeToBlack as I take it all the time in Boston and have taken it in New York and Chicago and for the most part I think it is safe if you are using it during the daytime hours to attend the show. Now, if you are using it late at night and you are by yourself it can be dangerous in any large city.

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  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Can you carry a concealed weapon in Pennsylvania?

  • 1Mike11Mike1 Posts: 4,427 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you're carrying valuable coins or a knot of cash, take a cab. If you travel light take the train.

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  • 1Mike11Mike1 Posts: 4,427 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bolivarshagnasty said:
    Can you carry a concealed weapon in Pennsylvania?

    Yes but not sure about the city limits.

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  • bestdaybestday Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭✭

    @divecchia said:
    I agree with @FadeToBlack as I take it all the time in Boston and have taken it in New York and Chicago and for the most part I think it is safe if you are using it during the daytime hours to attend the show. Now, if you are using it late at night and you are by yourself it can be dangerous in any large city.

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  • SkyManSkyMan Posts: 9,509 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Assuming you look like a normal schmoe with a carry on bag, it should be fine. Just do it during daylight hours. I trust you're not stupid enough to put on a T-shirt or baseball cap that says, "I love gold coins". Needless to say, don't talk to anybody about where you're going.

  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 17, 2018 9:17PM

    If you feel the need to ask then that answers your question. I'm glad I live in California......no matter what some people think. I know about Philly. Been there done that. No thanks.

  • ernie11ernie11 Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 18, 2018 1:27AM

    I live here in Philly and take the regional rail all the time, but I've never been on the Airport line. It is a dedicated line back and forth to Center City. I agree with 1Mike1, if you're carrying real valuables, take a cab, but it won't be cheap. Otherwise, if you are carrying a briefcase or luggage or whatever, you will not stick out in the crowd - realize that >>everyone<< on that line is carrying luggage, since it's for air travelers.

  • jonrunsjonruns Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 18, 2018 2:36AM

    @Hydrant said:
    If you feel the need to ask then that answers your question.

    If you look nervous, and don't know where you are going then you are more likely to be a victim...I'd suggest that you take a cab...

  • TwobitcollectorTwobitcollector Posts: 3,931 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll be taking the train from just outside Philly, it's very safe.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If I were to go, I would take a cab... and I am licensed to carry in PA....and, of course, I would be carrying. Cabs are more secure and you are dealing with just the driver, make sure you understand where you are going and the logical route (easy to determine - and put GPS on your phone)....Route deviations should cause you to question the driver... poor answer and call the cops. Cover all the bases, all the time. Cheers, RickO

  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,109 ✭✭✭✭✭

    On business trips I always use the rail - much faster, less expensive, and much cleaner than the crappy cabs at the Philly airport. But yeah, if you have a suitcase full of Saints, a cab might be the better way, although they are sketchy too - I would take a shuttle or higher end car service or consider Uber.

  • USAFRETWIUSAFRETWI Posts: 464 ✭✭✭

    California? Ever take the BART train going into Oakland? Never again.

  • jerseycat101jerseycat101 Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Justacommeman said:
    Wear a Dave Schultz Flyers jersey and don’t shower for a week and you should be fine

    mark

    Way to generalize.

  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,109 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Justacommeman said:
    Wear a Dave Schultz Flyers jersey and don’t shower for a week and you should be fine

    mark

    Well I certainly would not wear any of my Patriots T-Shirts :D:D

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  • Sunshine Rare CoinsSunshine Rare Coins Posts: 2,337 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd use Uber.

  • hchcoinhchcoin Posts: 4,837 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Justacommeman said:
    Wear a Dave Schultz Flyers jersey and don’t shower for a week and you should be fine

    mark

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  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 18, 2018 8:34AM

    @USAFRETWI said:
    California? Ever take the BART train going into Oakland? Never again.

    You got me on that one IF you consider the Bay Area to be part of California. I have my doubts that that place is even a part of the same solar system that the rest of us inhabit.

  • ernie11ernie11 Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @FadeToBlack said:

    @Connecticoin said:

    @Justacommeman said:
    Wear a Dave Schultz Flyers jersey and don’t shower for a week and you should be fine

    mark

    Well I certainly would not wear any of my Patriots T-Shirts :D:D

    You'd probably be fine, get some razzing about the SB and Tom's inability to catch passes.

    Now, if you wore cowboys gear... Then you're asking for an asskicking. And not just in Philly.

    That's not true. We Philadelphians would treat you politely and kindly, as long as you took that f*%@#$+g Cowboys T-shirt off! :D

  • BustDMsBustDMs Posts: 1,699 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Other than the Zombies I would be really careful.

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  • tommy44tommy44 Posts: 2,319 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Have a string hanging out of your nose, keep your head down and don't look anyone in the eye, mumble to yourself and you should be fine. Works every time for me.

    All kidding aside, as mentioned above the airport train is a dedicated line. Just look like you know what you are doing and you should be fine.

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  • divecchiadivecchia Posts: 6,688 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow, I did not realize the rail or public transportation was looked at this badly in the major cities. I don't drive as I don't have a driver's license by choice and take the MBTA or the "T" as we call it here in the Boston area all the time. I agree at night some of the sketchy areas could be an issue, but during the day I think you will be okay. Just don't be wearing a sign that says rob me as I'm carrying a bunch of expensive coins with me.

    Be safe.

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  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,307 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wish I knew which of these comments are based on experiences specifically with the SEPTA Airport Line.

  • claychaserclaychaser Posts: 4,406 ✭✭✭✭

    Thanks to all that commented. I am started a new thread and asking for comments from people that know the area.



    ==Looking for pre WW2 Commems in PCGS Rattler holders, 1851-O Three Cent Silvers in all grades



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  • ernie11ernie11 Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @messydesk said:
    I wish I knew which of these comments are based on experiences specifically with the SEPTA Airport Line.

    As I said before, I have never ridden that specific line before, but most all of the other routes I have been riding on for years. There are no guarantees in life, but so far I have never encountered a problem on a SEPTA train, ever. I qualify this by saying that I rarely travel the routes at night, 'cause I'm an early sleeper. The only times I would not ride a SEPTA train would be during a major snowstorm or on St. Patty's Day when many travel into the city to get drunk.

  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Anyone have facts? Number of robberies and assaults on the various lines in Philadelphia? How about the same for taxis and car-hire services?

  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,307 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So if you're taking a cab or ride-share, will you have them drop you off at the convention center or to the Hilton Garden Inn across the street?

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    Uber

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