1909 VDB, What would a very rough estimate of its grade be?

I just wanted to know what this coins grade could be with a very rough estimate. The black marks seem to be toning and look very different from what the camera shows however I believe it shows the important parts.
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It seems to be MS in person.
Looks uncirculated to me.
Could be an AU or a low MS. Hard to tell by the photos.
MS63 RB
Really?
Anyone else have an opinion?
A high end AU with unattractive toning.
The photos are difficult to judge from, but there appears to be little actual wear. I would guess AU. The eye appeal is not so good. The fingerprints and dark coloring are distracting, but there is some red left. Can you get some better photos?
I will try with a professianal camera
The actual coin looks very different.
Looks AU to me. Please take a single shot straight on for each side. Then crop them to the right size.
Hope it grades....not that you should get this common coin graded. There are a lot available, without your coin's problems, on ebay, at your local coin shop and at shows.
bob
Well I have a 1982 zinc large date penny that seems to be in the high AU’s
Should I get that graded?
AU58
Not worth the submission fee. Enjoy it as is.
Thanks for the photos @KollectorKing
@Thecoinlector looks like maybe AU.
It appears to have woodgrain toning. There is a woodgrain toning thread on her and you might post it over there for those more familiar with grading on woodgrain coins.
OINK
This...but it also appears to have been cleaned AU.
https://pcgs.com/setregistry/showcase/2819
It's not technically "MS" but Lincolns that look like this are graded 62/63 with regularity.
So, I guess that "makes it" a 62/63.
63RB knocked down a grade due to splotchy unattractive obverse toning would make it a 62RB.
AU58/MS61,...Somewhere in that neighborhood....Cheers, RickO
AU58