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BIG changes coming to eBay starting September

ArizonaRareCoinsArizonaRareCoins Posts: 679 ✭✭✭✭
edited July 5, 2018 3:10PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Just received an email from eBay expression advising their efforts to move away from Paypal. Starting September, eBay will be starting an "opt-in" program, for eBay sellers. This program will have eBay as the mediator, instead of Paypal. All payments would go through eBay and eBay would decide on all issues ie disputes. There would be no chargebacks allowed as eBay would be the ultimate decision maker. EBay will charge only 2.7% instead of Paypal's 2.9% fee.

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  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for the info !!! :)

    Timbuk3
  • ArizonaRareCoinsArizonaRareCoins Posts: 679 ✭✭✭✭

    @ChrisRx said:
    2.7%... how generous...

    The email also said they would be reducing FVF's for the eBay transactions, but they didn't say how much.

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ArizonaRareCoins said:
    Just received an email from eBay expression advising their efforts to move away from Paypal. Starting September, eBay will be starting an "opt-in" program, for eBay sellers. This program will have eBay as the mediator, instead of Paypal. All payments would go through eBay and eBay would decide on all issues ie disputes. There would be no chargebacks allowed as eBay would be the ultimate decision maker. EBay will charge only 2.7% instead of Paypal's 2.9% fee.

    This is the stupidest thing I've heard from eBay. Moreover, how can eBay stop a charge back? Are they adopting a cash only policy? As long as they accept credit cards, they are bound to credit card agreements that allow for charge backs.

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 5, 2018 3:57PM

    I wonder if eBay is going to continue with its "buyer (almost) always wins" mentality it has had up to this point. In my opinion, this should be a deal breaker for most sellers. It may be "opt-in" for now, but once eBay gets is greedy paws on that 2.7% extra income, I'm sure it will become mandatory within a year.

  • jt88jt88 Posts: 3,200 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I thought paypal charge 4% not 2.9%?

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,735 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jt88 said:
    I thought paypal charge 4% not 2.9%?

    No, they are at 2.9% plus $0.30 per transaction - for most people. If there is a foreign exchange involved, the rates are higher.

  • MorganMan94MorganMan94 Posts: 1,330 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jt88 said:
    I thought paypal charge 4% not 2.9%?

    They charge 2.9% plus 30 cents. When selling a lot of people just say 3% when selling to make it easier.

  • CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @jt88 said:
    I thought paypal charge 4% not 2.9%?

    No, they are at 2.9% plus $0.30 per transaction - for most people. If there is a foreign exchange involved, the rates are higher.

    3.9% on non domestic transactions.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,735 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ChrisRx said:
    2.7%... how generous...

    It's a 10% discount. Given that processing credit cards isn't free, eBay (or PayPal) does not get to keep all of that money. Heck, if you use Amex, they may see very little of that money.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,735 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Coinstartled said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @jt88 said:
    I thought paypal charge 4% not 2.9%?

    No, they are at 2.9% plus $0.30 per transaction - for most people. If there is a foreign exchange involved, the rates are higher.

    3.9% on non domestic transactions.

    Yes, foreign exchange is higher. Is it uniformly higher? I seem to recall 3.5% on a UK payment recently.

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jt88 said:
    I thought paypal charge 4% not 2.9%?

    Maybe you're thinking of international rates?

  • ArizonaRareCoinsArizonaRareCoins Posts: 679 ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 5, 2018 4:33PM

    I wanted to post the link/email describing this new program, but according to the eBay page, it's non-disclosure agreement prevents this. I'm sure eBay will soon release the specifics. For those that are ebayexpression members, you can sign-in and read the details:
    https://ebayexpression.com

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,838 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It sounds like buyers are getting less protection in exchange for a minor discount. It does not look like a great deal to me.

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  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So basically eBay will be their own processor of payments?

    Great transactions with oih82w8, JasonGaming, Moose1913.

  • COINS MAKE CENTSCOINS MAKE CENTS Posts: 1,861 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like ebay just wants to be a one man show and have everything in house.

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  • ShadyDaveShadyDave Posts: 2,217 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ms70 said:
    So basically eBay will be their own processor of payments?

    Yes, sounds like they will be processing their own payments.

    I plan on to continue to use PayPal (with my 2% cash back credit card) until I hear other's feedback on how the new eBay policies will affect buyers/sellers. I'd rather not be the Guinea pig for ebay....after learning all the ins and outs of the paypal policy.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,735 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:
    It sounds like buyers are getting less protection in exchange for a minor discount. It does not look like a great deal to me.

    It doesn't sound like that at all. It sounds like eBay is handling it all internally - including buyer/seller guarantees.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,735 ✭✭✭✭✭

    How the hell can someone disagree with the original post which was just informative not an opinion?

  • AzurescensAzurescens Posts: 2,783 ✭✭✭✭✭

    56 days to get a site up and going.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,735 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Azurescens said:
    56 days to get a site up and going.

    Actually, they bought a European payment processing firm so it's really just site integration.

  • bronzematbronzemat Posts: 2,666 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hopefully paypal will still be an option.

  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wonder how long before we get the "2 free years of credit monitoring" apology email.

    Great transactions with oih82w8, JasonGaming, Moose1913.

  • dpooledpoole Posts: 5,940 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yikes.

    I'm starting to lose track of where Ebay moved the deck chairs.

  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,619 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 6, 2018 6:05AM

    As I learned .... " when something is coming down the chute, something else will be going up the chute". Can't imagine what that might be.

  • ArizonaRareCoinsArizonaRareCoins Posts: 679 ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 24, 2018 11:00AM

    @jmlanzaf said:
    How the hell can someone disagree with the original post which was just informative not an opinion?

    That's my STALKER. He apparently has decided to stalk me because I am Pro-Trump, so he has left me 300 disagrees. He has personally attacked me and I have reported him numerous times, but they wont do anything about it, so I've retaliated and left him disagrees, unfortunately it didn't do any good. He has posted that he believes I am sending others after him. It's a sad world sometimes.

  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,839 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wonder if this has anything to do with the new sales tax ruling and if ebay is going to collect such tax and remit on sellers' behalf.



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  • CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:
    How the hell can someone disagree with the original post which was just informative not an opinion?

    Are you new here...TDN got a disagree for yawning.

  • jt88jt88 Posts: 3,200 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cameonut2011 said:

    @jt88 said:
    I thought paypal charge 4% not 2.9%?

    Maybe you're thinking of international rates?

    No, I don't think so. I just checked it. My sale is 570 for a coin and paypal charged me $25.38. Another example is to Canada.

    the coin is 130 and shipping is 26 (I over charged and I refunded 2.4 later). So the total is 156, paypal charge me 7.16.

  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,673 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 6, 2018 5:37PM

    I'll wait until the fine print is published.

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  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ArizonaRareCoins said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    How the hell can someone disagree with the original post which was just informative not an opinion?

    That's my STALKER. He apparently has decided to stalk me because I am Pro-Trump, so he has left me 250+ disagrees. He has personally attacked me and I have reported him numerous times, but they wont do anything about it, so I've retaliated and left him disagrees, unfortunately it didn't do any good. He has posted that he believes I am sending others after him. It's a sad world sometimes.

    Are you the one who gave him 1000 disagrees?

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,735 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jt88 said:

    @cameonut2011 said:

    @jt88 said:
    I thought paypal charge 4% not 2.9%?

    Maybe you're thinking of international rates?

    No, I don't think so. I just checked it. My sale is 570 for a coin and paypal charged me $25.38. Another example is to Canada.

    the coin is 130 and shipping is 26 (I over charged and I refunded 2.4 later). So the total is 156, paypal charge me 7.16.

    Canada would be international

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,735 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @grote15 said:
    I wonder if this has anything to do with the new sales tax ruling and if ebay is going to collect such tax and remit on sellers' behalf.

    No, they bought the European payment processor in the Spring before that ruling came down.

  • ArizonaRareCoinsArizonaRareCoins Posts: 679 ✭✭✭✭

    @Wabbit2313 said:

    @ArizonaRareCoins said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    How the hell can someone disagree with the original post which was just informative not an opinion?

    That's my STALKER. He apparently has decided to stalk me because I am Pro-Trump, so he has left me 250+ disagrees. He has personally attacked me and I have reported him numerous times, but they wont do anything about it, so I've retaliated and left him disagrees, unfortunately it didn't do any good. He has posted that he believes I am sending others after him. It's a sad world sometimes.

    Are you the one who gave him 1000 disagrees?

    No, he earned most of that all by himself. I just gave him the same number of disagrees he gave me.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,735 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ArizonaRareCoins said:

    @Wabbit2313 said:

    Are you the one who gave him 1000 disagrees?

    No, he earned most of that all by himself. I just gave him the same number of disagrees he gave me.

    >
    Would that number be 1000? :wink:

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,735 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Coinstartled said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    How the hell can someone disagree with the original post which was just informative not an opinion?

    Are you new here...TDN got a disagree for yawning.

    Well, yawning actually is an opinion. But, it was more of a rhetorical question. I know how it works. I have a "fan" who disagrees with almost everything I post also.

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