Rate the 25 greatest U.S. Doubled Dies

CaptHenway · June 25, 2018 10:42AM

Obverse or reverse, in order, and why you think it belongs where you put it..
For #1 I have to pick the 1872 DDR Dime with the reverse offset about 175 degrees between impressions.
For #2 I have to go with the 1955 DDO, both for its huge spread and the massive impact it had on the hobby from 1955 on.

Edited to add:
Based on the comments below I am going to add some of those pieces here, IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER, for discussion and possibly a later vote on putting them in order.

1876-CC Trade $1: Fabulous separation. My tentative pick for #3.
1916 nickel: Bill Fivaz' BU coin knocked my socks off the first time I saw it. Great separation, but because of the design and the fact that the first hubbing was incomplete only the date is affected.
1919 Dime: Another coin with great separation but a very limited area affected by the doubling.
1873 Dime: Ditto
1876-S Trade Dollar: Ditto
1876-CC 20 Cents: Ditto, and so dang rare that the doubled die makes no difference to the price.
1958 Cent: Almost as good as the 1955, but the questions surrounding its escape from the Mint cloud its desirability.
1972 Cent Variety One: The leader of a pack of 1972 doubled dies, with very respectable rotation.

(to be continued)

Insider2 · June 25, 2018 10:48AM

1876-S DDO Trade $ #1-5 NOT

Insider2 · June 25, 2018 10:51AM

1955 DDO 1c all things considered.

PS Don't use the # sign in your response!

oih82w8 · June 25, 2018 11:03AM

Really nice choice @CaptHenway 1872 DDR Dime, 11 graded by PCGS, highest MS63, population 2. The coinfacts image of a VF30 does not the degree of rotation justice.

Here is the link to Gerry Firtins poage with the description and PUP for 1872 Variety 105 Obverse 5: Medium Level Date, Die Defect Left of Base, Clashed Die - Reverse E.2: Doubled Die Reverse, Rotated 175 Degrees, Clashed Die

http://www.seateddimevarieties.com/date_mintmark/1872_105page.htm

I believe that the 1873 10C W/Arrows F-103 Obverse 3: Doubled Obverse Die, Medium Level Date, Misplaced 3 In Denticles should be up there. I mean c'mon...the shield is so obviously doubled that it rivals the "common" 55 1C DDO.

http://www.seateddimevarieties.com/date_mintmark/1873wa_103page.htm

The 1955 1C DDO is probably the most famous, and readily available, but there are others out there that fly under the collectors radar.

STEWARTBLAYNUMIS · June 25, 2018 11:37AM

1958 DDO Lincoln cent
1969 s DDO Lincoln Cent

RogerB · June 25, 2018 11:45AM

1934-D $
1872 cent

tradedollarnut · June 25, 2018 12:05PM

Define ‘greatest’. Most degrees? Most popular? Rarest?

If I’m defining greatest, it’s the most dramatic and eye catching- subtle ones hidden in a shield or a banner would not be high on my list. 1955 cent wins hands down.

crazyhounddog · June 25, 2018 12:10PM

1916 buffalo nickel double date.

Crypto · June 25, 2018 12:22PM

@crazyhounddog said:
1916 buffalo nickel double date.

That is a good one but it really has to be the 55 penny. The 1873 double lib cent is a good one too.

1961 proof half is important due to being a proof.

1916/1916 nickel

The 1888-o hot lips is important too

The 76cc trade is big

And the 1969s penny.

1873 dime

1942/41 dime but people consider that an overdate

The 72 DDR dime while cool is hard to see and not obvious. It is obvious something is going on but the doubling effect is missing, takes the thrill out for everyone but the hardcore needs among us. My mom knows a 55 ddo cent when she sees one.

SanctionII · June 25, 2018 12:22PM

1961 doubled die reverse proof half dollar has readily apparent doubling.

Crypto · June 25, 2018 12:23PM

@Insider2 said:
1876-S DDO Trade $ #1-5 NOT

Dan is going to kick your A

david3142 · June 25, 2018 12:24PM

After the 1955, I’d say:

1958 Lincoln DDO
1969-S Lincoln DDO
1972 Lincoln DDO
1983 Lincoln DDR
...
1936 and 1917 (not sure these would make the top 25 of all series)

1916 Buffalo is a good one.

1876-CC 20c is dramatic and a major rarity.

Somewhere on the list but further down would be the 1888-O Morgan Hot Lips.

Crypto · June 25, 2018 12:24PM

@RogerB said:
1934-D $
1872 cent

What cent are you talking about?

cmerlo1 · June 25, 2018 12:26PM

1942-D Washington Quarter- DDO-001
1971 Lincoln Cent- DDO-001

I think the 1919 DDO Mercury dime should be there also.

mbogoman · June 25, 2018 1:37PM

@SanctionII said:
1961 doubled doe reverse proof half dollar has readily apparent doubling.

Yes, I agree. Big coin, big spread on the doubling, and it's a proof!!! How many other proof doubled dies are there? (that matter, anyway...thx for saying what I meant, Crypto)

Timbuk3 · June 25, 2018 1:45PM

!!!

Insider2 · June 25, 2018 1:49PM

@mbogoman said:

@SanctionII said:
1961 doubled doe reverse proof half dollar has readily apparent doubling.

Yes, I agree. Big coin, big spread on the doubling, and it's a proof!!! How many other proof doubled dies are there?

Besides the 1960 1c that comes quickly to mind, there are several other Lincolns and Jefferson nickels. Just about every series has these DD Proofs but many are "micro" varieties.

Check out the Kennedy 50c and Ike $.

Crypto · June 25, 2018 1:55PM

@mbogoman said:

@SanctionII said:
1961 doubled doe reverse proof half dollar has readily apparent doubling.

Yes, I agree. Big coin, big spread on the doubling, and it's a proof!!! How many other proof doubled dies are there?

Lots of proof double dies, no others that matter

Insider2 · June 25, 2018 2:08PM

@Crypto said:

@mbogoman said:

@SanctionII said:
1961 doubled doe reverse proof half dollar has readily apparent doubling.

Yes, I agree. Big coin, big spread on the doubling, and it's a proof!!! How many other proof doubled dies are there?

Lots of proof double dies, no others that matter

You deserve a BIG FAT disagree for your post. Many of these DD coins (that don't matter to you) sell for many multiples of the regular issue. Aside from value, they are highly coveted and searched for by fellow numismatists.

Dan (?) may be after me but you may have stirred up the wrath of many here.

PocketArt · June 25, 2018 2:17PM

I would have to include the 1974-D Kennedy DDO. My birth year so I'm a little partial to this one. This is the only DDO that I've been able to cherrypick in a mint set, and also find in the wild searching rolls.

Very pronounced doubling on motto, Liberty, and date. Underrated IMO; yet, I'ts affordable, and attainable for those on a limited budget who wish to obtain a nice DDO variety. For that I'm thankful.

drei3ree · June 25, 2018 2:29PM

The 55 cent and the 16 buff are my top two!

yosclimber · June 25, 2018 2:30PM

Here's a start for my list:
1. 1955 1c DDO doubled date and legend
2. 1873 10c DDO doubled shield
3. 1876-S $1 DDO Trade doubled foot, leg, LIBERTY, etc.
4. 1876-CC 20c DDO doubled LIBERTY
5. 1876-CC $1 Trade DDR doubled branches, feathers
6. 1972 1c DDO doubled date and legend
7. 1934-D $1 DDO doubled rays
8. 1916 5c DDO doubled date, etc.
9. 1876-CC 10c DDO doubled OF AMERICA
10. 1872 10c DDR 175 degree rotation is technically very cool, but does not look that dramatic
Prior discussion and photos:
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1001058/1876-s-doubled-die-obverse-trade-dollar-with-trueview
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/880144/major-pics-of-an-incredible-and-rarely-clearly-seen-ddo-on-a-h10c

koynekwest · June 25, 2018 2:31PM

I think the '55 cent would have to rank #1 because of it's eye appeal and impact on the hobby. The 1872 dime has a wider spread (the widest of all)) but the first hubbing is incomplete. The 16/16 5c has a huge spread and other elements of the design also show the separation-feathers, ribbon ties neck, and chin but, since it's a Class V doubled die it isn't as dramatic as the '55, which is a Class I. The '42-D 25c is simply outstanding, especially in the earliest state of the die. Both it and the 16/16 actually have a wider spread than the '55 cent but because of the nature of the lettering on the quarter it isn't as visually impactful as the cent. I would add the 1943 DDO Die Eleven 25c as a top ten doubled die in addition to the ones already mentioned as well as the Die Five of the DDR for the '71-S proof Ike and the 1934 DDO+DDR quarter.

coinkat · June 25, 2018 2:36PM

Surprised that the 1888-O Hot Lips Morgan and the 1901 Shifted Eagle Morgan were not mentioned yet... Both should make the top 20. I would add the 1946 WLH DDR into the top 25 as well

coinkat · June 25, 2018 2:38PM

I can see Crypto mentioned the 88-O... Sorry for the oversight

Crypto · June 25, 2018 2:49PM

@coinkat said:
Surprised that the 1888-O Hot Lips Morgan and the 1901 Shifted Eagle Morgan were not mentioned yet... Both should make the top 20. I would add the 1946 WLH DDR into the top 25 as well

Only reason I wouldn’t add the 46 half is that it clearly went its entire die life without being pulled. Not only is it common the LDS lose much of the doublings split

coinkat · June 25, 2018 3:01PM

The 1946 WLH DDR is common... I see it as a candidate for the reasons you may not... The EDS and well struck examples are amazing coins. It is a coin many can own that won't bust the bank.

DCW · June 25, 2018 3:05PM

I would have to mix rarity with dramatic spread to compile my list.
How many of you have seen the 1988 Lincoln Cent doubled ear? It is nearly as strong as the famed 1984 ddo, but only one is known!
And the 1982 Lincoln cent doubled die reverse? Rare as hens teeth and almost identical to the 1983 ddr.

MilkmanDan · June 25, 2018 3:14PM

Obviously the 1876-S DDO T$ should be considered the most valuable

But overall my vote goes for 55 1c. No question. We don't need to define what "greatest" means for that one, it's dramatic, naked eye observable, and famous.

REALGATOR · June 25, 2018 3:17PM

Someone might find something interesting over at the BST forum. Just sayin....

Insider2 · June 25, 2018 3:24PM

@OriginalDan said:
Obviously the 1876-S DDO T$ should be considered the most valuable

But overall my vote goes for 55 1c. No question. We don't need to define what "greatest" means for that one, it's dramatic, naked eye observable, and famous.

You get another BIG FAT DISAGREE from me and I'm using one the next time. LOL.

Please explain why you think this trade dollar is Obviously the most valuable. What has one of these coins (most have never heard of that is virtually unlisted in any popular reference) sold for? Have you considered that there are dozens of more well known DD, with fewer known specimens in more popular coin series? What did that 1958 DD 1c just sell for?

Crypto · June 25, 2018 3:26PM

Where are the 2009 ghost thumb boosters from a few years ago?

Insider2 · June 25, 2018 3:29PM

@Insider2 said:

@OriginalDan said:
Obviously the 1876-S DDO T$ should be considered the most valuable

But overall my vote goes for 55 1c. No question. We don't need to define what "greatest" means for that one, it's dramatic, naked eye observable, and famous.

You get another BIG FAT DISAGREE from me and I'm using one the next time. LOL.

Please explain why you think this trade dollar is Obviously the most valuable. What has one of these coins (most have never heard of that is virtually unlisted in any popular reference) sold for? Have you considered that there are dozens of more well known DD, with fewer known specimens in more popular coin series? What did that 1958 DD 1c just sell for?

@OriginalDan Second Request

Crypto · June 25, 2018 3:32PM

@Insider2 said:

@Insider2 said:

@OriginalDan said:
Obviously the 1876-S DDO T$ should be considered the most valuable

But overall my vote goes for 55 1c. No question. We don't need to define what "greatest" means for that one, it's dramatic, naked eye observable, and famous.

You get another BIG FAT DISAGREE from me and I'm using one the next time. LOL.

Please explain why you think this trade dollar is Obviously the most valuable. What has one of these coins (most have never heard of that is virtually unlisted in any popular reference) sold for? Have you considered that there are dozens of more well known DD, with fewer known specimens in more popular coin series? What did that 1958 DD 1c just sell for?

@OriginalDan Second Request

Because he owns one, he was joking Cletus

MilkmanDan · June 25, 2018 3:32PM

@Insider2 said:

@OriginalDan said:
Obviously the 1876-S DDO T$ should be considered the most valuable

But overall my vote goes for 55 1c. No question. We don't need to define what "greatest" means for that one, it's dramatic, naked eye observable, and famous.

You get another BIG FAT DISAGREE from me and I'm using one the next time. LOL.

Please explain why you think this trade dollar is Obviously the most valuable. What has one of these coins (most have never heard of that is virtually unlisted in any popular reference) sold for? Have you considered that there are dozens of more well known DD, with fewer known specimens in more popular coin series? What did that 1958 DD 1c just sell for?

Obviously because I own the top pop coin*. DUH!

*Sans Chopmark (for @Crypto)

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CaptHenway · June 25, 2018 3:44PM

Chill, people.

EagleEye · June 25, 2018 3:46PM

1) 1955/55 1C
2) 1873 Doubled LIBERTY 1C
3) 1918/7-S 25C
4) 1916/16 5C
5) 1872 DDO 10C
6) 1969/69 1C
7) 1972 DDO-1 1C
8) 1876-CC 20C
9) 1876-CC $trade
10 1876-CC 10C

Crypto · June 25, 2018 3:54PM

@CaptHenway said:
Chill, people.

This is how trade guys playfully banter back and forth

We are a jovial bunch

ECHOES · June 25, 2018 3:57PM

I have to say,
1958 1c
1969-S 1c
1955 1c
1972 Die 1, 1c
And this one...

Insider2 · June 25, 2018 5:35PM

No > @EagleEye said:

1) 1955/55 1C
2) 1873 Doubled LIBERTY 1C
3) 1918/7-S 25C
4) 1916/16 5C
5) 1872 DDO 10C
6) 1969/69 1C
7) 1972 DDO-1 1C
8) 1876-CC 20C
9) 1876-CC $trade
10 1876-CC 10C

Disqualified

1876-CC 20c is a great one.

mannie gray · June 25, 2018 11:29PM

Great topic!
I am going to give this one some serious thought and will have my list by tomorrow, although I can say that 2 of my favourites have not been mentioned yet.
1955 Lincoln is at the top of my list though.

Type2 · June 26, 2018 1:11AM

1970 S.

DDR · June 26, 2018 1:57AM

1955 1 cent tops the list.
But I love the 1876-CC DDR Trade Dollar.
(Doubling a bit less obvious on this pic due to lighting, though.)

garrynot · June 26, 2018 3:58AM

How about the 1939 nickel, doubled Monticello.

ricko · June 26, 2018 7:25AM

I will refrain from making a list... those above are already sufficient. I do rank the '55 DDO as number one... it happened when I was a kid, I saw them in the cigarette packs and even got a couple in change...Cheers, RickO

Crypto · June 26, 2018 12:38PM

@garrynot said:
How about the 1939 nickel, doubled Monticello.

Good one, DDR are rarer for some reason

CaptHenway · June 26, 2018 3:40PM

I guess I should add the 1969-S DDO to the working list.

What do you all think about the various Dual Hub 1960 Large over Small Date and/or Small over Large Date varieties?

An example:

http://www.pcgscoinfacts.com/Coin/Detail/82869

The various 20th Century overdates from dual hubbings could also be considered, for the list, but most people do not think of them as Doubled Dies. Opinions welcome.

What about the Dual Hub dies collectively know as 1878 7/8TF Dollars?

CaptHenway · June 26, 2018 3:45PM

Another 1960 Dual Hub image

http://koinpro.tripod.com/VarietiesUS/1960D1cSmLgColor.jpg

koynekwest · June 26, 2018 6:27PM

I'm also a fan of the various Lg/Sm and Sm/Lg 1960 cents. Those would belong in the top 25 IMO. I especially like the proof Sm/Lg and the Denver Mint coin.

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