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I lost at poker last night

gtstanggtstang Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭✭✭

Good thing it was fun money and not coin money.

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  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It is about time to bring back REAL CASH internet poker.

    A game of skill that was so easy to make money at on the internet.

  • gtstanggtstang Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:
    It is about time to bring back REAL CASH internet poker.

    A game of skill that was so easy to make money at on the internet.

    I agree. I made a lot more on full tilt playing razz.

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gtstang said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:
    It is about time to bring back REAL CASH internet poker.

    A game of skill that was so easy to make money at on the internet.

    I agree. I made a lot more on full tilt playing razz.

    I played RAZZ about 99% of the time, an absolute money maker. If you played full tilt, then we for sure played together as I knew most players.

  • gtstanggtstang Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't remember a lot of player names. Mine was acustaw.

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I was something like 1dsmII

    Man, that was so much fun.

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You can play for cash on the internet. Ignition and Carbon. The latter is small

    mark

    Walker Proof Digital Album
    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Mark, have you received a payout?

    I do not believe that they have RAZZ. NO LImit Hold em is a completely different game and not as predictable as razz.

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    gtstang, where do you play now? I play WSOP NL hold-em free money sometimes but its bs as ONLY real money is poker.

  • gtstanggtstang Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I rarely play online now. I do have an account at bovada though

  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    :) !!!

    Timbuk3
  • chumleychumley Posts: 2,305 ✭✭✭✭

    coin geeks that play games of chance......who woulda thought?

  • rln_14rln_14 Posts: 686 ✭✭✭✭

    yep, i miss the real money online poker, i won a little bit, probably lost more times than i won, but it was fun

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 23, 2018 3:51PM

    What the casino mogul does not understand is the fact, that for poker anyway, the casinos themselves had way more poker traffic from all the internet players wanting to try their new found skills in person. Some casino poker rooms like Viejas that were once packed became ghost towns a couple years after Black Friday.

    I myself would go to the casino often to play poker during the time of internet cash poker. Lots of fish. Easy Money.

    Now many poker rooms are grinders and prop players. I never go anymore.

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 23, 2018 4:04PM

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:
    Mark, have you received a payout?

    I do not believe that they have RAZZ. NO LImit Hold em is a completely different game and not as predictable as razz.

    My son plays for a living live and on Internet. “Cash” payouts are a little slow but gets paid like clockwork until they aren’t I guess. Bitcoin payouts are fast.

    I like high low Omaha. A lot of fishes. Just got to make sure you find them

    m

    Walker Proof Digital Album
    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
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  • mynamespatmynamespat Posts: 75 ✭✭✭

    @Justacommeman said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:
    Mark, have you received a payout?

    I do not believe that they have RAZZ. NO LImit Hold em is a completely different game and not as predictable as razz.

    My son plays for a living live and on Internet. “Cash” payouts are a little slow but gets paid like clockwork until they aren’t I guess. Bitcoin payouts are fast.

    I like high low Omaha. A lot of fishes. Just got to make sure you find them

    m

    I used to be awake constantly at super odd hours because the Russians and E. Europeans are soooo bad at Omahaha.

  • gtstanggtstang Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I found my sharkscope graph online still out there. I never made a deposit, but won freerolls and built from there.

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  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 9,124 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    Now many poker rooms are grinders and prop players. I never go anymore.

    And also "team" players that share the cards in their hands with their team members using secret signals.
    .

  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Didn't some programmer get busted for putting in a fix or program in the system that only he can see every one's cards so he knew all the cards on the table as they where all face up.



    Hoard the keys.
  • skier07skier07 Posts: 4,387 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Type2 said:
    Didn't some programmer get busted for putting in a fix or program in the system that only he can see every one's cards so he knew all the cards on the table as they where all face up.

    That happened about 10 years ago on Absolute Poker before the feds stopped online poker. Russ Hamilton, one of the principals with Absolute Poker, knew what every players hole cards were for several holdem tournaments. He is a former WSOP main event winner.

  • skier07skier07 Posts: 4,387 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:
    What the casino mogul does not understand is the fact, that for poker anyway, the casinos themselves had way more poker traffic from all the internet players wanting to try their new found skills in person. Some casino poker rooms like Viejas that were once packed became ghost towns a couple years after Black Friday.

    I myself would go to the casino often to play poker during the time of internet cash poker. Lots of fish. Easy Money.

    Now many poker rooms are grinders and prop players. I never go anymore.

    Black Friday, when the feds put an end to online poker, coincided with the recession of 2007. There was less interest without online poker, and a lot of players due the recession had less gambling money. Las Vegas was adversely affected during the recession. Folks from California had less gambling money to lose on their weekend trips. Between the drop in gambling revenue and the foreclosure crisis Vegas suffered big time.

  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 24, 2018 12:29AM

    Some guy was busted for fixing the lotto not to long ago he put in a fix as well to hit a combo of numbers every so many months on a picked day and he would tell his family to pic the numbers but they did not want to do it after they hit once or twice.

    Then he did it and that was it he was caught and told about the fix he was a known felon so the feds had a lot of questions on how he got the job how he did it, It was a big scam but was not told about because of it may be a big problem with how many people where taken for years by the state or states, could bankrupt the lottery system.



    Hoard the keys.
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I prefer 'sit down' poker, face to face.... Though not at casino's.... too many scammers at those games. I watched them in Vegas... after a while, a careful observer can pick them out. Cheers, RickO

  • AzurescensAzurescens Posts: 2,783 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Type2 said:
    It was a big scam but was not told about because of it may be a big problem with how many people where taken for years by the state or states, could bankrupt the lottery system.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,228 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    I prefer 'sit down' poker, face to face.... Though not at casino's.... too many scammers at those games. I watched them in Vegas... after a while, a careful observer can pick them out. Cheers, RickO

    John Scarne, the most famous author on gambling, stated in his book (paraphrase) that in a six player poker game, three chump players working together and knowing each other's hole cards, would easily beat the other players, no matter how good they are.

  • skier07skier07 Posts: 4,387 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @stevek said:

    @ricko said:
    I prefer 'sit down' poker, face to face.... Though not at casino's.... too many scammers at those games. I watched them in Vegas... after a while, a careful observer can pick them out. Cheers, RickO

    John Scarne, the most famous author on gambling, stated in his book (paraphrase) that in a six player poker game, three chump players working together and knowing each other's hole cards, would easily beat the other players, no matter how good they are.

    Casino poker in general is very clean. With a dealer being a casino employee marked cards aren’t being introduced to a game and seconds aren’t being dealt. Collusion sometimes occurs but most colluders don’t know how to do it correctly. I wouldn’t worry about being cheated in a casino. Home games are much more dangerous especially with high stakes.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,228 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @skier07 said:

    @stevek said:

    @ricko said:
    I prefer 'sit down' poker, face to face.... Though not at casino's.... too many scammers at those games. I watched them in Vegas... after a while, a careful observer can pick them out. Cheers, RickO

    John Scarne, the most famous author on gambling, stated in his book (paraphrase) that in a six player poker game, three chump players working together and knowing each other's hole cards, would easily beat the other players, no matter how good they are.

    Casino poker in general is very clean. With a dealer being a casino employee marked cards aren’t being introduced to a game and seconds aren’t being dealt. Collusion sometimes occurs but most colluders don’t know how to do it correctly. I wouldn’t worry about being cheated in a casino. Home games are much more dangerous especially with high stakes.

    I wasn't referring to marked cards or dealing seconds, i was referring to signaling.

    If it's a large poker room in a casino or race track, with many active tables, where they seat you, then I would agree it's very clean. However if it's a small poker room and you sit down there with strangers, then consider yourself a fish in a pond of water with fishermen throwing out their baited hooks for ya.

    I totally agree with ya about "home games" for high stakes. Never play in circumstances such as that where they use two separate decks to make the game go faster. Only play with one deck, always watch the shuffling, and insist that everyone always cuts the cards. And make sure the game starts with a new sealed deck.

    Also look at the sealed deck before it's opened. Clever scammers can mark a deck and reseal it. I haven't checked it out in a long time, but I used to see marked sealed decks for sale on the internet.

    I just now looked - looks like marked decks for sale are still around on Ebay, far more than before - Sorry I didn't want to post any link to this...easy to find on Ebay search.

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Playing poker at a casino one time, I remember the dealer pulling the deck because every ace had a fingernail mark in it. Now we were playing the game knowing that one of the other players at the table was trying to cheat.

  • cnncoinscnncoins Posts: 414 ✭✭✭✭

    I played on Full Tilt from 2007 until 2011 until Black Friday, under the name "Nipper56". I had five figure in my account at the time and eventually got it all back. Several dealers that are on the show circuit play cash games in the evenings after hours. Some very good players in these games.

  • AzurescensAzurescens Posts: 2,783 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Jeez this reminds me of an old friend. He was extremely good at poker and probably could've made a fortune on his ability to read people. He got suckered into online poker and was good into the hundreds of thousands rocking it.

    In the meantime he convinced his parents to get a loan on the house to start a business with a friend who made thousands a week. They lost everything on 2 hands. Their fault, unless he was a victim of the hack.

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "They lost everything on 2 hands."

    Bankroll management would have prevented that. Never bet more than1/20 of your bankroll.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,228 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:
    "They lost everything on 2 hands."

    Bankroll management would have prevented that. Never bet more than1/20 of your bankroll.

    Tough folding that second nut hand which is perhaps what happened. They probably got hammered having the second nut hand.

    When a huge all-in bet is involved, I think the easiest second nut hand to fold is a baby straight, probably followed by a king high flush with at least four suited cards showing. The others are extremely hard to fold, especially against a loose player prone to bluffing.

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @stevek said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:
    "They lost everything on 2 hands."

    Bankroll management would have prevented that. Never bet more than1/20 of your bankroll.

    Tough folding that second nut hand which is perhaps what happened. They probably got hammered having the second nut hand.

    When a huge all-in bet is involved, I think the easiest second nut hand to fold is a baby straight, probably followed by a king high flush with at least four suited cards showing. The others are extremely hard to fold, especially against a loose player prone to bluffing.

    I guess my point is that the other 19/20 should have been left at home/ off the table.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,228 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @stevek said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:
    "They lost everything on 2 hands."

    Bankroll management would have prevented that. Never bet more than1/20 of your bankroll.

    Tough folding that second nut hand which is perhaps what happened. They probably got hammered having the second nut hand.

    When a huge all-in bet is involved, I think the easiest second nut hand to fold is a baby straight, probably followed by a king high flush with at least four suited cards showing. The others are extremely hard to fold, especially against a loose player prone to bluffing.

    I guess my point is that the other 19/20 should have been left at home/ off the table.

    And it's a completely valid point. But of course good advice such as that is rarely listened to by poker players, including many of the best.

    I've heard Doyle Brunson say in an interview that he went broke many times during his poker playing career.

    Those painful events likely gave Doyle a lot of incentive to write his famous book on poker. :)

  • thebeavthebeav Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I play online at Global and BetOnline.
    They've been decent sites.

  • mynamespatmynamespat Posts: 75 ✭✭✭

    @dcarr said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    Now many poker rooms are grinders and prop players. I never go anymore.

    And also "team" players that share the cards in their hands with their team members using secret signals.
    .

    I've always thought these people were morons. They might get away with signaling cards to teammates for a couple orbits, but attentive players will catch on to these signs very quickly. They might as well be playing their cards face up for all to see after the codes have been deciphered. Good poker players are looking for any sort of information that provides information to an opponents hole cards. If they are repeating a movement every time they have certain cards, no matter how subtle, it only takes a couple examples to become known.

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