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Liberty Dollar is back

DCWDCW Posts: 7,843 ✭✭✭✭✭

It appears Liberty Dollar is making a comeback as a cryptocurrency that is somehow backed by precious metals?
https://www.coinworld.com/news/precious-metals/2018/06/liberty-dollar-becomes-silver-backed-cryptocurrency.html

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    derrybderryb Posts: 38,584 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "LD2 digital tokens are a warehouse receipt that guarantees its owner/bearer the precious metal stored in the insured vault"

    Just another paper promise

    Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else. - Bastiat

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    DCWDCW Posts: 7,843 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:
    "LD2 digital tokens are a warehouse receipt that guarantees its owner/bearer the precious metal stored in the insured vault"

    Just another paper promise

    At least it is a promise, right? True cryptocurrencies make no such claim, or am I missing something?

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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,985 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As soon as I saw the word counterfeiter, I lost interest.

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    JBKJBK Posts: 17,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The problem with virtual currencies (or "warehouse receipts") is that when they collapse or get shut down by the feds there is nothing left for collectors to own.

    By coincidence, I just got back some of my copper Liberty Dollars from Bernhard Von Nothaus after he counterstamped them with a punch he had made to mark LDs that had been confiscated by the govt and then returned to owners as a result of a court case. That, for me, is the real "value" of LDs.

    BTW - as far as I understood it, the original warehouse receipts (paper LDs) had a fee schedule that resulted in them becoming worthless over time. For a year or two they maintained full value, but then after that they were periodically reduced in value to pay for the storage fees and insurance of the underlying silver. Not sure if the electronic/virtual ones work the same way.

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    crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,229 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 22, 2018 12:03PM

    Not into paper promises.
    But I do have a couple of rare Norfed pieces.

    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,576 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sorry but not for me.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 25,204 ✭✭✭✭✭

    And just who checks the contents of the vault ... and how often?

    All glory is fleeting.
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    JBKJBK Posts: 17,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @291fifth said:
    And just who checks the contents of the vault ... and how often?

    What vault? :D

    I am pretty sure the last company that vaulted their stuff was a major reputable metals processor, but there have also been precious metals companies that floated buy/sell transactions and did not necessarily own all the metals it claimed to own on its customers' behalf.

    I assume LD is still on the up and up in that regard, but it is a fair question.

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    RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    More bologna.

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    Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,406 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This storage scam is decades old, picked up steam in the early 1980's when everyone was hocking all their silver wares to buy silver bullion but were tricked into letting the gold and silver buyers store it "safely" off site. Everybody got ripped off when the stores closed down over night. Peace Roy

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    FullStrikeFullStrike Posts: 4,353 ✭✭✭

    Fools and their Money........

    Some People just never learn. They get hosed once and soon they're queuing in another line to get hosed again.

    Sad.

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    privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I folliwed the case closely and turned all my paper liberty dollars to the feds when requested. And got my silver rounds that were seized returned to me a few month's ago.

    Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value. Zero. Voltaire. Ebay coinbowlllc

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Amazing... why would anyone get involved with this?? It has 'failure, scam, fraud, loss' written all over it.....This makes me chuckle "The [AUDITOR] works on behalf of the token holders to verify that all issued tokens are backed by the prescribed amount of precious metals." And just who pays the auditor?? Hmmm... I would guess he works on behalf of his employer - When will people learn...Cheers, RickO

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    fiftysevenerfiftysevener Posts: 943 ✭✭✭✭

    I felt sorry for them and bought one prooflike dollar in 2008. And look at this beauty today !

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    JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not interested.

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