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Guess the grade....1900 Double Eagle (grade posted-see first post)

erwindocerwindoc Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited June 20, 2018 5:23AM in U.S. Coin Forum

What do you think and why??


NGC graded it as a MS64 and CAC agreed. I thought it had a bit too much chatter on the cheek and wanted other opinions. It appears that lots of the forum agreed, but perhaps this is one that needs to be seen in hand. I liked it due to the strike and will hopefully evaluate it in hand soon. Thanks for the opinions!

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    blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 7,626 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64 possible 65 obverse but the reverse looks 63. Guess 64.

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    MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,192 ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 19, 2018 7:44PM
    1. Focal point (cheek) hits.
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    Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    :) !!!

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    coinpalicecoinpalice Posts: 2,468 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have a ms-63, it looks about 1/2 grade better, so I will say ms-63+

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    pcgs69pcgs69 Posts: 4,397 ✭✭✭✭

    I'll go with 61. Seems to have quite a bit of chatter

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    CoinCrazyPACoinCrazyPA Posts: 2,899 ✭✭✭✭

    MS63

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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,970 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1. Good luster, but lots of bag marks. Maybe higher as you are showing it.
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    ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 7,106 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1. Looks nice but just too many marks.

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    mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    62/63 from the images.
    Might go higher if the scuffs are lighter than the picture makes them appear.

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    SurfinxHISurfinxHI Posts: 2,679 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’m in with 63+

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,540 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ChrisH821 said:
    62. Looks nice but just too many marks.

    Agree. The cheek is a prime focal area and there are a lot of contact marks there.

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    Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 12,100 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm in with PerryHall and ChrisH.

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    VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It looks like a 63 to me but I could see a 62 if the graders were grouchy. 64 would be a gift on that one.

    The strike is very good, the luster is strong and reverse easily makes 64 tho.........

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    erwindocerwindoc Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Grade posted!

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    Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 12,100 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yikes - good thing I don't collect gold!

    I do have an OGH St Gaudens in 64 that has FAR fewer marks and grazes than this coin, so based on my very limited experience, with coins of substantially different designs, I put this at 62. Maybe they are more forgiving with a portrait style coin like this one.

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    gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭

    W what PCGS would grade it.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS62.... way too much chatter....both sides....Perhaps in hand, without magnification, it looks better. Cheers, RickO

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    blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 7,626 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @grip said:
    W what PCGS would grade it.

    They would probably go 65. Been my experience anyways that PCGS is much more liberal on pre 33 gold grades compared to NGC.

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    ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I really don't know nor understand why...
    Here is mine...not the same year but looks much better :) Would mine CAC then?

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    KkathylKkathyl Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congrats and from what I have seen NGC much tighter on gold then PCGS so that is solid. Plus the sticker seals it.

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    ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In the spirit of consistency @erwindoc...I think PCGS would give 63

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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,970 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Paradisefound said:
    I really don't know nor understand why...
    Here is mine...not the same year but looks much better :) Would mine CAC then?

    Worth a try.

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    ashelandasheland Posts: 24,466 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Both double eagles on this thread are SWEET!

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    CoinCrazyPACoinCrazyPA Posts: 2,899 ✭✭✭✭

    @Paradisefound said:
    I really don't know nor understand why...
    Here is mine...not the same year but looks much better :) Would mine CAC then?

    I would say yes, very nice looking coin.

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 9,662 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice coin, but the "euro" look turns people off apparently. Nice photos btw.

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    goldengolden Posts: 10,460 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would not buy the coin as a 64.

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,540 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @logger7 said:
    Nice coin, but the "euro" look turns people off apparently. Nice photos btw.

    Please explain what the "euro look" means.

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 9,662 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:

    @logger7 said:
    Nice coin, but the "euro" look turns people off apparently. Nice photos btw.

    Please explain what the "euro look" means.

    Darkening on the high points; I have seen it on a lot of $20 gold pieces, coins were in Europe in bank bags usually.

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,540 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @logger7 said:

    @PerryHall said:

    @logger7 said:
    Nice coin, but the "euro" look turns people off apparently. Nice photos btw.

    Please explain what the "euro look" means.

    Darkening on the high points; I have seen it on a lot of $20 gold pieces, coins were in Europe in bank bags usually.

    Thanks. I've seen dirty looking Saints referred to as having Euro dirt. I'm curious why European sourced coins are like this.

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