1858 1c Pattern Transitional Set ... TrueView SHOWDOWN!
DMWJR
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I can't recall a good showdown since the 2002 Indian Head Cent Showdown at Long Beach, and I thought that was great fun even though I wasn't a participant. I thoroughly enjoyed viewing the three sets displayed, getting to compare the top coins in person. It was amazing.
I had an opportunity to work on the 12 piece pattern set when a couple of really nice ones came on the market just a couple of years ago. Then there was a small flurry (of course since I was buying and not selling), and I managed to put together a decent set. Recently, I had them TrueViewed and decided to put my set in the same format as @boiler78 because his presentation of the set is really eye catching. @boiler78 was gracious enough to agree to posting his group photo here with mine (thanks!). For close ups, please visit the Registry Set. I have opened my set, as has boiler78. I hope you enjoy.
I didn't do a poll or want this to be a competition - just good clean fun with top coins in the set. I do have some backups that may have been better suited for the group photo, but what is in my set formally is what I wound up with except for the last one. My registry set actually has an MS66+ coin in that slot, but I really thought the PR65+ was more appropriate.
Recommended reading - Rick Snow's book on the history and different varieties, even within the 12 coins. The mint was very busy for all sorts of reasons.
Number 1 set:
Number 2 set:
Comments
No interest here?
This could be good, but your photo array lost resolution or sharpness somehow.
So most of what is left is a color / toning comparison.
I believe most of us are more accustomed to comparing coins at somewhat high resolution.
So if I was doing this, I would pair each of the @boiler78's coins with yours, side by side,
and post those 12 paired photos.
Example:
J-191: boiler78 PR-64 ex-Eliasberg, Wright PR-65
Of course, even this will have its limitations, because proof coins can look quite different, depending on the lighting angle.
I like the photo of boiler78's coin, showing luster on the eagle between its feathers.
There should also be a link to the full resolution sets/photos.
https://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistry/u-s-patterns/specialty-sets/flying-eagle-indian-head-cents-short-set-1858/publishedset/77954
https://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistry/u-s-patterns/specialty-sets/flying-eagle-indian-head-cents-short-set-1858/publishedset/143858
Also, I believe from the other thread that @boiler78's goal is to reassemble the Eliasberg set.
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1000435/1858-one-cent-pattern-sets-a-question-or-two
So what criteria are we supposed to use when comparing the coins from your sets?
Interesting !!!
Those are beautiful !
Just a lovely set !
Those are amazing sets of coins. Truly quality collections... I would like to have been able to click/magnify the pictures for a closer examination. Cheers, RickO
Love the 12 piece set. Once you've completed that, expand it by adding the round v. pointed bust Indians and the 5 v. 6 leaf reverses.
Sold most of Mine to Boiler78 around 10 years ago to include 2 I bought at the Eliasberg sale - great sets!
@yosclimber Thanks for the comments and I'm the first to admit I'm lacking the photoshop area. That's why I opened my set. This was for fun, just looking for great, beautiful coins. Your approach is a good one. I've heard that the old old collectors used to get there sets and compare coin by coin to see who had the best set - over a glass of wine or whatever - all in good fun. Yes, I do not share the same goal as @boiler78 , and I'm not competing with him. Just having fun!
I'll tell you to that the coins in the photo are not all of the 1858 patterns that he has, and not all the ones I have. But, this is the first time I have seen two composite sets displayed together like this since I have been on the boards.
@Lakesammman I actually do have almost all the combinations of 5/6 leaf reverses and rounded/pointed busts
Would love to see that reddish ornamental shield flyer in person!
Thats a very impressive set like how you displayed it for a overall look!
Love your presentation and both sets have lots of eye appeal. Thanks for posting this.
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