Another NEWP Thaler, and Thank you

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Bob13
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edited June 3, 2018 4:48PM in World & Ancient Coins Forum

I recently acquired this Rudolf II Thaler and am really happy with it. I welcome any feedback or comments. Please post some of your own - a lot of the great older threads no longer have pictures attached to them.

Let me also take this opportunity to thank the regular posters on this forum, who have shared their coins and knowledge. I certainly never thought I would dabble/become consumed with the darkside! It's fun.

My current "Box of 20"

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  • worldcoinguy
    worldcoinguy Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The Rudolf II designs are classic. Here is one in my collection from a fellow forum member.

  • marcmoish
    marcmoish Posts: 6,938 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Zohar is going to enjoy your company here.

    Welcome to the boards.

    That piece is nice, seriously don't know how it graded 53. It looks over-graded(JMHO) as I see it as a circ/wear, I was thinking EF45 before I looked at the cert #. After I saw the grade I looked for weak strike perhaps but just don't see it. Perhaps in hand the eye-appeals totally rocks idk, just saying...

  • Zohar
    Zohar Posts: 6,727 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 8, 2017 4:45PM
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    Hi Bob13 - so nice to have another Taler collector here! - Post away! The Rudolph II pieces are wonderful indeed. worldcoinguy - was that mine once? What did it grade?

    Here are mine - https://taleruniverse.com/the-taler-universe-collection/austro-hungarian-talers-by-habsburg-ruler/rudolf-ii-1576-1612/

    Habsburg Talers

    TalerUniverse.com is a curated numismatic project dedicated to the silver talers, crowns, and medals of the Habsburg Empire and the Holy Roman Empire, spanning the 16th–18th centuries. The collection emphasizes historically significant issues, rare mint varieties, and high-grade NGC/PCGS examples, presented with detailed historical context, scholarly references, and high-resolution photography. TalerUniverse aims to serve both as a private collection showcase and a growing reference resource for collectors, researchers, and students of early-modern European coinage.
  • Bob13
    Bob13 Posts: 1,676 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Thanks Zohar - I have enjoyed your posts over the years and think your website is outstanding!

    Marcmoish - Maybe 45 is the right grade? - I had the same thought myself even before I got the coin. The trueview is a pretty good representation of the in-hand appearance. But, (in my opinion of course) the eye appeal is very good, and I am happy to own this coin.

    If I had to explain the grade assigned by PCGS, I would guess it is due to the curvature of the coin, which is most pronounced on the portrait. Away from the top of the curve there are great details and luster. The reverse has very little actual wear that I can tell. I admit I am a novice, so this is just my best guess.

    To Zohar and others - any other references besides your website and the Davenport books that you would recommend? Thanks again.

    My current "Box of 20"

  • marcmoish
    marcmoish Posts: 6,938 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Good eye..I was thinking 45 too!

  • worldcoinguy
    worldcoinguy Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Zohar said:
    Hi Bob13 - so nice to have another Taler collector here! - Post away! The Rudolph II pieces are wonderful indeed. worldcoinguy - was that mine once? What did it grade?

    Here are mine - https://taleruniverse.com/the-taler-universe-collection/austro-hungarian-talers-by-habsburg-ruler/rudolf-ii-1576-1612/

    Z - I thought you might remember that one. I like the toning and classic look of it so I have held onto it. NGC EF-45.

  • Bob13
    Bob13 Posts: 1,676 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Wow WCG - that is a great coin. Thanks for sharing.

    My current "Box of 20"

  • Zohar
    Zohar Posts: 6,727 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Habsburg Talers

    TalerUniverse.com is a curated numismatic project dedicated to the silver talers, crowns, and medals of the Habsburg Empire and the Holy Roman Empire, spanning the 16th–18th centuries. The collection emphasizes historically significant issues, rare mint varieties, and high-grade NGC/PCGS examples, presented with detailed historical context, scholarly references, and high-resolution photography. TalerUniverse aims to serve both as a private collection showcase and a growing reference resource for collectors, researchers, and students of early-modern European coinage.
  • 291fifth
    291fifth Posts: 25,218 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Rudolf II was a dedicated collector of many things. I wonder if coins were among his interests?

    All glory is fleeting.
  • Zohar
    Zohar Posts: 6,727 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    https://metmuseum.org/TOAH/hd/rupr/hd_rupr.htm

    "Rudolf’s unrivaled passion for collecting culminated in one of the greatest of princely Kunstkammers, which contained small bronzes, works in cut stone, medallions and ivories, books and drawings, coins, scientific instruments and natural objects, as well as some paintings."

    Habsburg Talers

    TalerUniverse.com is a curated numismatic project dedicated to the silver talers, crowns, and medals of the Habsburg Empire and the Holy Roman Empire, spanning the 16th–18th centuries. The collection emphasizes historically significant issues, rare mint varieties, and high-grade NGC/PCGS examples, presented with detailed historical context, scholarly references, and high-resolution photography. TalerUniverse aims to serve both as a private collection showcase and a growing reference resource for collectors, researchers, and students of early-modern European coinage.
  • JCMhouston
    JCMhouston Posts: 5,306 ✭✭✭
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    Lovely colors on that one.

    JCM-Houston
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    German States Collection
  • Zohar
    Zohar Posts: 6,727 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Nice Ensisheim mint?

    Habsburg Talers

    TalerUniverse.com is a curated numismatic project dedicated to the silver talers, crowns, and medals of the Habsburg Empire and the Holy Roman Empire, spanning the 16th–18th centuries. The collection emphasizes historically significant issues, rare mint varieties, and high-grade NGC/PCGS examples, presented with detailed historical context, scholarly references, and high-resolution photography. TalerUniverse aims to serve both as a private collection showcase and a growing reference resource for collectors, researchers, and students of early-modern European coinage.
  • TwoKopeiki
    TwoKopeiki Posts: 9,969 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Bob13 Great color on that one!

    Instagram: 8 Reales Numis
  • Bob13
    Bob13 Posts: 1,676 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Zohar - correct.

    Also learned a new word, in german - Löwenkopfschulter!

    Need to get proper images of this.

    My current "Box of 20"

  • marcmoish
    marcmoish Posts: 6,938 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Now I get the grade ;) , great piece!

  • tonedSilver
    tonedSilver Posts: 153 ✭✭✭
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    Wow your photo on the last post is just as good quality as pcgs. Very nice coins.

  • Zohar
    Zohar Posts: 6,727 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Bob13 said:
    And here are some better images, if anyone is interested.



    Bump @Bob13 great looking Rudolph!

    Habsburg Talers

    TalerUniverse.com is a curated numismatic project dedicated to the silver talers, crowns, and medals of the Habsburg Empire and the Holy Roman Empire, spanning the 16th–18th centuries. The collection emphasizes historically significant issues, rare mint varieties, and high-grade NGC/PCGS examples, presented with detailed historical context, scholarly references, and high-resolution photography. TalerUniverse aims to serve both as a private collection showcase and a growing reference resource for collectors, researchers, and students of early-modern European coinage.

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