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The National park is officially open (Don't roast your marshmallows over the Lava)

ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited September 26, 2018 6:09PM in U.S. Coin Forum


A'a "ah-ah" up to 1100 Celcius slow moving basaltic lava flow mass of hot jello with cooler rough surface. When harden the sharp spiny surface will eat the sole of your hiking shoes in no time

Pahoehoe "pa-ho-ho" up to 1200 C less thinner and less viscous than a'a it flows faster down the slope in vast rivers.
The surface congeals into a thin crust that looks very smooth.

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    ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would so love to go over and professional photograph that event.

    Maybe get some kayak fishing in on the side ......

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    ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭✭✭

    <3 not coin related but I've seen many questions being asked all over the forum B)

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    CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Paradisefound said:
    <3 not coin related but I've seen many questions being asked all over the forum B)

    We need a 2 Cent pumice coin.

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    ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭✭✭


    You would not want to bulldoze the solid basalt IGNEOUS ROCK

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    ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:
    I would so love to go over and professional photograph that event.

    Maybe get some kayak fishing in on the side ......

    You won't be able to paddle your kayak fast enough...how about let the motor maneuver it?
    Water temperature varies depending on the distance...so I think bigger fish stay off the jacuzzi :#

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    ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Paradisefound, have you gone over to see it in person?

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 40,181 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm staking claim to the new land mass

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    ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭✭✭

    .....back in 1990 during the eruption which wiped out the town of Kalapana...Beautiful one of the kind BLACK SAND beach no more....

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:
    Paradisefound, have you gone over to see it in person?

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    Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2, 2018 10:16AM

    That is very cool but hope you are in a safe place you never know where they can pop up, Cool pic.



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    ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2, 2018 10:14PM

    ....sad each and every time you (I) see the Kalapana in her glory...and it was only less than 30 years ago :'(
    But well.....it is nature at their grandeur stage <3

    beautiful black sands

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    JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Paradisefound

    STAY SAFE.

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    ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2, 2018 10:22AM

    @Paradisefound said:
    .....back in 1990 during the eruption which wiped out the town of Kalapana...Beautiful one of the kind BLACK SAND beach no more....

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:
    Paradisefound, have you gone over to see it in person?

    I photographed that beach years ago when I spent 5 weeks of my life on the islands.

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    ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The BOMB U need to stay away from.... just don't know when this huge blob of molten lava be ejected high into the air :s The Hawaiian called it "Pele Tears"
    For sure....the man lost his leg being hit by one of these.....several feet in diameter up to the size of a car :#

    @Type2 said:
    That is very cool but hope you are in a safe place you never know where they can pop up, Cool pic.

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 40,181 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A'A can melt silver.

    :#

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    AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 25,053 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've been to Hawaii so I guess I've walked on lava.
    Done it in California at the Lassen lava fields and in Oregon at Crater lake.
    Come to think of it, just about all land masses are remnants of lava, 'eh?
    Cool pics.
    bob :)

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    crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,256 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That would be something I would love to see. Mother Nature is a powerful thing.
    Incredible!

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    HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Paradisefound. I've been a coin, rock, fossil, and Indian artifact collector since I was about 5 years old. Never lost interest in any of them. Well, people ask me to show them my best coin. Their reaction is always one big YAWN. But......The lovely Mrs. Hydrant's late great grandma brought me some lava rock from the Big Island about 25 years ago. When people see those rocks and hold them they love it. Everytime. Lava is cool.

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    crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,256 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    Yep, climbed Mt. St. Helen a couple of years after the eruption.... Quite interesting, certainly a powerful force...likely the most powerful force of nature with Tornado's being second....Cheers, RickO

    I made it about half way, back in 81. We almost got killed by logging trucks taking the harvest of trees AS FAST AS THEY COULD down the mountain. Jeez
    Yes the power of that eruption was an amazing display of some serious power. Half of that mountain is gone :o

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    northcoinnorthcoin Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Paradisefound said:
    ....sad each and every time you (I) see the Kalapana in her glory...and it is only less than 30 years ago :'(
    But well.....it is nature at their grandeur stage <3

    beautiful black sands

    Brings back memories. Looks like the Black Sand Beach we used to frequent on our visits to the Big Island.

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    ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thank you @PCGSPhoto for visiting and sharing the interesting episode <3

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    BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My daughter and I took mopeds out on Makena road into the old lava field from the Fairmont in Wailea... I was nervous the road would puncture our tires. Pretty amazing.

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    BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    She told me I wasn't allowed to go to Little Beach.

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    ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2, 2018 11:20PM

    I has a "good left" ;)

    @BlindedByEgo said:
    She told me I wasn't allowed to go to Little Beach.

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    Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yup, it's really bad here !!! :s

    Timbuk3
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    ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 4, 2018 9:26AM

    Maui's last lava flow from Haleakala (House of the Sun) back in 1790 ..... it took over 200 years to finally have the vegetation breaking down the barren landscape....
    Maui Route 31 > Makena Road

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    ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭✭✭

    WOW I love the discovery as well as her painting very very much @northcoin
    You have a treasure in those painting........ <3 I bet you are looking forward for your return visit (but Oahu only next year) B)

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    northcoinnorthcoin Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 3, 2018 12:29AM

    @Paradisefound said:
    WOW I love the discovery as well as her painting very very much @northcoin
    You have a treasure in those painting........ <3 I bet you are looking forward for your return visit (but Oahu only next year) B)

    Thanks. We did return to Maui in recent years via ship and boat and got to again see Makena Beach, although this time from the ocean, as we snorkeled off shore to see the sea turtles.

    In keeping with the theme of this thread, our ship took us close enough to see the lava pouring into the ocean off of the Big Island. That was definitely a sight to remember.

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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a good way to melt a great bunch of pre 82 zinc copper cents worth more then face value without getting in trouble ;)

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I believe that any coin coming in contact with the lava would cease to exist as a coin...or even as visible metal... Cheers, RickO

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    HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 3, 2018 9:54AM

    Perry Hall, I was hoping someone would pick up on that!

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    HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @crazyhounddog said:

    @ricko said:
    Yep, climbed Mt. St. Helen a couple of years after the eruption.... Quite interesting, certainly a powerful force...likely the most powerful force of nature with Tornado's being second....Cheers, RickO

    I made it about half way, back in 81. We almost got killed by logging trucks taking the harvest of trees AS FAST AS THEY COULD down the mountain. Jeez
    Yes the power of that eruption was an amazing display of some serious power. Half of that mountain is gone :o

    Long, long, ago, I was a logging truck driver. We worked the eastern slope of the Sierra Nevada from North of Reno to Kern County, California. Those drivers were maniacs! You can't imagine how many rigs crash on those logging roads. The pills and the booze didn't help matters. I only stayed with it for a couple of years. Too dangerous.

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    Desert MoonDesert Moon Posts: 6,501 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Paradisefound said:

    A'a "ah-ah" up to 1100 Celcius slow moving basaltic lava flow mass of hot jello with cooler rough surface. When harden the sharp spiny surface will eat the sole of your hiking shoes in no time

    Pahoehoe "pa-ho-ho" up to 1200 C less thinner and less viscous than a'a it flows faster down the slope in vast rivers.
    The surface congeals into a thin crust that looks very smooth.

    And pahoehoe can turn into a'a when the lava moves away from the vent and begins to cool and lose volatiles - increased viscosity. Pahoehoe aka 'ropy' lava, a'a as 'blocky' lava. Always a good quiz question.

    Best, SH

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    ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MAHALO @spacehayduke

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    Desert MoonDesert Moon Posts: 6,501 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    I believe that any coin coming in contact with the lava would cease to exist as a coin...or even as visible metal... Cheers, RickO

    Pure Pt melts at 1768C, well above the liquidus temperature at the surface of any known lava. You could alloy it and bring the T down but mint made Pt bullion should survive.

    Best, SH

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @spacehayduke ....Correct... I thought it was much hotter...Cheers, RickO

    Here is a list of temperatures for the common types of lava:

    Rock type Temperature (C) Temperature (F)
    Rhyolite 700-900 1292-1652
    Dacite 800-1100 1472-2012
    Andesite 950-1200 1742-2192
    Basalt 1000-1250 1832-2282

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    Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,425 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wonder if you could make a few coins out of the lava. Peace Roy

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    Desert MoonDesert Moon Posts: 6,501 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 3, 2018 1:30PM

    @ricko said:
    @spacehayduke ....Correct... I thought it was much hotter...Cheers, RickO

    Here is a list of temperatures for the common types of lava:

    Rock type Temperature (C) Temperature (F)
    Rhyolite 700-900 1292-1652
    Dacite 800-1100 1472-2012
    Andesite 950-1200 1742-2192
    Basalt 1000-1250 1832-2282

    And komaiites can come out at 1400-1500C in some cases, and still to cool to melt the Pt bullion. However, last komatiite to erupt on Earth was 90 Million years ago on Gorgona Island off the coast of Colombia and we may not see the like of this type of lava on Earth ever again...........

    HST, Cu, Zn, Au, and Ag will melt in basalt, especially when alloyed - that results in lowering the melting T. Ni in its pure form won't, but as an alloy, probably.

    Edited to add: I stand corrected, you need to get to 50% Cu to lower the melting point of Ni alloy to have it melt in a basalt - so toss them Buffs into Kilauea for preservation for future generations :p

    Best, SH

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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I just received an image on my phone from Guatemala. The message said it is "raining lava!" There is a photo of the back windshield of a parked car and it has a complete coating of black mud-like debris. The volcano is erupting and the rain has condensed the ash. They have never seen this happen before. I'll see if someone at work can download the image from my phone.

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    Desert MoonDesert Moon Posts: 6,501 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Gotta say, volcanoes and precious metals have given me one hail of a career, specially Hawaii (my fav is Hualalai) so glad to see this thread. Guatemala 'canoes are very volatile rich, love to see the images.

    Best, SH

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    Aegis3Aegis3 Posts: 2,944 ✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    I believe that any coin coming in contact with the lava would cease to exist as a coin...or even as visible metal... Cheers, RickO

    A tungsten coin should be safe. Word is, if you pour molten W into lava, it will freeze (the tungsten, that is).

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    oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 13,237 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 4, 2018 6:08AM

    I guess you could put your "to be melted" items into a smelters pot, but it would probably take too long for the lava to melt your items and would creep up on you in no time, or would be too hot to stay for the required time?

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    CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Some great images.

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    BackroadJunkieBackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No marshmallows, but how 'bout some steaks?

    Ah, James May...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7rffcRFwD0

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