Low Mintage 1909-D Saint Gauden "GTG" Revealed.
HighRelief
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Third lowest mintage 52,500 of the Saint Gauden Series Type 3 with Motto. PCGS has graded a total of only 789 1909-D's making it one of the more elusive Saint's to obtain in higher grades. This was in a NGC slab and I did a crossover with PCGS giving it a new grade.
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AU58
55+
11.5$ Southern Dollars, The little “Big Easy” set
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It looks like an AU-53 to me.
Nice EF -- definitely not AU.
There was only one delivery of double eagles from Denver in 1909 - January 5, 1909;
52,500 pieces. Estimated Survival: 1,200 in all conditions. Approximately 750 in the OP's illustrated condition.
"1909-D double eagles are most often found sharply struck. The Capitol dome and olive branch are well defined, as are the eagle’s feathers. Luster is average to above-average and the surfaces commonly have a soft frosted texture. A few pieces, likely early strikes from a new die, have a more satin-like surface. Nearly all of the highest quality coins can be traced to the repatriated Manfra, Toredella and Brookes holdings from Central America.
Color is usually medium orange gold but some have slight greening tinges. Other than a handful of exceptional quality specimens, most have numerous scattered marks and abrasions from handling of mint bags."
But you do realize that really no one grades like that when it comes time to sell right? Market price is the only real standard.
11.5$ Southern Dollars, The little “Big Easy” set
No. I learned to grade accurately, consistently and objectively on both sides of a transaction.
you can't let that go unanswered, Crypto
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When? Because in the 50s extremely fine included almost uncirculated. Where? Because in Europe extremely fine includes almost uncirculated. By whose standards? Because at certain TPGs almost uncirculated includes extremely fine.
55 is my wag . . .
1947-P & D; 1948-D; 1949-P & S; 1950-D & S; and 1952-S.
Any help locating any of these OBW rolls would be gratefully appreciated!
55 would be my wag.
I'm going to guess a 50.
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I'm on the boat with the others! How can you grade this XF! Sell me your that looks like this at todays XF price!
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There. Its settled.
My primary grading instructor was Frank Katen, Silver Spring, Md. He was consistent, objective and reliable. He used the ANA definitions for circulated coins and four "uncirculated" modifiers which match MS60, 63, 65 and 67/68. Defects and deficiencies were required to be mentioned, as were superlatives. He was also outspoken about the practices of some of his contemporaries - and usually right.
Nothing since then has demonstrated any need to bend those standards or meet some arbitrary and inconsistent TPG insert numbers. "Grade inflation" does not occur when standards are defined and followed.
While I might grade a coin "AU" it is the market between buyer and seller that determines value. And that value is of the coin not an arbitrary and inconsistent label that calls the same "AU" coin MS-61 yesterday, MS-63+ today and MS-64 tomorrow. The real value is identical.
As perceptively noted in the 1804 dollar thread, "They’re all overgraded. I’m the first to admit that the one I own is a 63+/64-."
RE: "How can you grade this XF!"
Because that is what it appears to be based on the photos. We all know that trying to grade a coin from photos is tricky, so I usually consider these things as "for amusement only."
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Well.. I am too late for GTG... however, from the pictures, I would have said 50-53....Oh well, win some lose some... the others get better grades...
Cheers, RickO
@HighRelief
I have always liked this date/mint and feel it is underappreciated in the series. It looks like your coin may be the large D over small D variety discovered by David Bowers in 1988. The mintmark is fairly wide and shows traces of a small D in the upper left corner of the large D. About a decade ago, I sold an example for a decent premium on ebay. Image of that coin are below.
Nice AU53 congrats
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BloodMan: That would be a very interesting find but I do not see it on this 1909-D Saint. I appreciate you pointing this out to me so when looking at others 09-D's I will know to take a look for it.